HAROLD C. ERNST 14! 



Other witnesses for the bill made such statements as 

 these : one, that he " ivould rather see a human being suffer 

 than an animal," upon which the comment has been 

 passed that it would be well if his patients did not know of 

 this feeling. Another stated the belief that " not one iota 

 of human suffering has been abated or one human life saved 

 by vivisection" and further, that the procedure " is an ex- 

 citing pastime" Naturally with such beliefs, this witness's 

 opposition to the procedure should be vigorous; and yet, 

 when later commenting upon the operation of lumbar punc- 

 ture, the same witness said she could not tell whether the 

 removal of the cerebro-spinal fluid would cause harm, 

 but that more experiments were needed to settle this point 

 ignorant of or ignoring the hundreds of times that the 

 operation has been performed with no untoward symptoms 

 whatever. 



Then followed the various opinions of older men, already 

 quoted many times at similar hearings, and an address 

 published in the " Transcript " of the same date, and in type 

 before read to the committee, in which the writer herself 

 states that she has no personal knowledge of the abuses 

 and cruelty of which she says so much. 



FURTHER TESTIMONY FOR THE BILL 



That individuals may change in their opinions is well 

 shown in the quotation from Lecky (" History of European 

 Morals," third edition, revised; D. Appleton and Co., 

 New York, 1900, page 176): 



" The horrors of vivisection, often so wantonly, so 

 needlessly practised, the prolonged and atrocious tor- 

 tures often inflicted in order to procure some gastro- 

 nomic delicacy, are so far removed from the public 

 gaze that they exercise little influence on the char- 

 acter of men." 



