4- SCENES IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. 



servants, for they are Ministers no longer (laughter) 1 say, Sir, if his Majesty's 

 servants can submit if they are so humiliated as to submit to the bullying conduct 

 of the Honourable Gentleman, I shall not submit to it (laughter). I wish to know, 

 Sir, is this proper conduct in this House (hear! and laughter)? I'll divide the Hou&e 

 upon it (continued laughter). 



Mr. O'Conncll: I wish the Honourable Member for Berkshire joy of his ally 

 (laughter). There could not be two more completely suited to each other (laughter). 

 I may, perhaps, indeed be permitted to express my astonishment at this; what an 

 excellent constituency it must be that is represented by the Honourable Member for 

 Wigan (hear! and laughter)! 



Mr. RICHARDS called the Honourable Member for Kilkenny to order. An attack 

 was made upon the Honourable Member for Berkshire as if he were connected with 

 The Times newspaper, when he (Mr. Richards) contended that the Honourable 

 Member for Kilkenny had not shown any connection between the honourable 

 Member for Berkshire and that paper. The Honourable Member fof Kilkenny could 

 not be permitted thus to browbeat and ruffianise, if he might use the expression ; it was 

 not consistent with the order of the debate (hear! and cries of " Order"). 



Mr. O'CoNNELL : The Honourable Member for Berkshire has reason to rejoice in 

 his second defender (hear! and laughter). 



Mr. WALTER : I do not wish to interrupt the Hon. and Learned Gentleman ; I only 

 ask the favour of being permitted to reply (hear, hear!). 



The SPEAKER considered it would be most desirable if Honourable Members would 

 only refer to what occurred in the course of the debate. 



Air. O'CONNELL : Certainly ; and therefore I only wish to congratulate the Honour- 

 able Member for Berkshire upon his second defender (laughter). 1 think nothing can 

 be more flattering to him than the first except the second (laughter) ; one, too, so 

 especially remarkable for his exceeding delicacy and extreme polish, which make him 

 shrink from anything that belongs to the kennel (laughter). 



Mr. RICHARDS : I rise to order, Sir. It is not right to bring into this House the 

 manners of a blackguard, instead of those of a gentleman (long-continued cries of 

 "Order!") 



The SPEAKER was sure that the House must agree with him in thinking that expres- 

 sions had been used on both sides which were not proper to be used in that House. He 

 would conjure the Members, for the sake of that House, not to indulge in language 

 inconsistent with propriety. 



Mr. O'CONNELL : I care not for his expressions. As to mine, I only talked of 

 hopping over the kennel, and I think it was not inapplicable to the occasion (hear! and 

 laughter). 



Mr. N. FITZSIMON: I think that the debate cannot continue. The Honourable 

 Member for Knaresborough has used most offensive expressions. He has made use of 

 a word which I am almost afraid to repeat, but which you, Sir, I am sure, must have 

 heard, as every Honourable Member near me has heard it. I must, then, request of 

 the Honourable Member for Knaresborough to withdraw, before this House, his 

 exceedingly offensive expressions (hear!). 



The SPEAKER observed that words had undoubtedly fallen from the Honourable 

 Member for Knaresborough which ought not to have been used. The inference was 

 that, if they were not directly applicable to the Honourable Member for Kilkenny, they 

 were intended to apply to him. 



Mr. O'CONNELL: Oh! I do not remember them. 



Mr. RICHARDS: I hope that upon all occasions I shall bow to the Speaker. I un- 

 derstood the Honourable Member for Kilkenny to say that the words used by me 

 were brought from the kennel (" No, no !" from several Honourable Members, in which 

 Mr. O'Connell joined). Understanding it so, if he did not use the word kennel, I with- 

 draw the expression. 



The SPEAKER stated that he understood the Honourable Gentleman to have said that 

 the words savoured of the kennel. 



Dr. BALDWIN remarked that in the first instance the Honourable Member for 

 Knr jsborough had used the word " ruffianise." He left it to the House to say 

 whether that was a proper expression to be used. 



Mr. RICHARDS: If the word was not applied to me, in the manner I understood it, 

 I withdraw the expression. 



Mr. N. FITZSIMON: I think that the Honourable Member for Knaresborough has no 

 right to enter into a compromise upon this subject. I think he should be called upon 

 to withdraw the offensive expression as indefensible (hear, hear!). 



