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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[2»<J S. VII. Feb. 26. '69. 



sums of money from fees for grants of arms, and 

 other services. When Cromwell was made Lord 

 Protector he stronjily affected regal state, and 

 created Bysshe and Riley Garter and Norroy, and 

 in these capacities tliey officiated at his funeral. 

 Your correspondent Glis P. Templ. will find a 

 long catalogue of devices granted to different 

 Cromwellian commanders in Prestwich, some of 

 which are very absurd. There are also a great 

 number of their coats in the early editions of 

 Guillim, but these are carefully omitted after the 

 Restoration. At this period Sir Edward Walker 

 returned and resumed his post as Garter, Sir Ed- 

 ward Bysshe was made Clarencieux, and Riley 

 continued as Norroy, and the College went on as 

 before. Your correspondent will also find a great 

 deal of interesting information in Dallaway's 

 Heraldry^ and in Noble's History of the College of 

 Arms. A. A. 



Poets' Corner. 



Scandal against Queen Elizabeth (2°* S. vii. 

 106.) — I have been informed by an antiquarian 

 friend that proofs did till recently, and probably 

 do yet, exist in the State Paper Office of criminal 

 intercourse between Queen Elizabeth and the 

 Earl of Leicester (Robert Dudley) : of the nature 

 of the evidence I know nothing, but I understood 

 from my informant that it was of the most conclu- 

 sive nature. It was moreover added that the docu- 

 ments were kept private, and not permitted to be 

 used by historical inquirers. This pi-ecaution 

 seems so unreasonable, that I am inclined to think 

 that there is some mistake in the case.* 



K. P. D. E. 



Cromwell at the Isle of Rhe (2"* S. vi. 499.) — 

 I only see "N. & Q." in monthly parts, and it is 

 probable some of your correspondents may have 

 written ere this reaches, on the subject of S. N. 

 R.'s Query. Oliver Cromwell the Protector was 

 not the Cromwell who took part in the attack on 

 the Isle of Rhe in 1628 (recte 1627). It was 

 Thomas Baron Cromwell, created Viscount Le- 

 cale in 1625, and Earl of Ardglass in 16 — , who 

 was present, and who was lineally descended from 

 Thomas Earl of Essex, chief minister of Henry 

 VIII. His father Edward, third Baron Cromwell 

 in the English peerage, having been appointed 

 Governor of Lecale, in the county of Down, ex- 

 changed his lands in Devonshire with Lord 

 Mountjoy for the Downpatrick estate about 1603, 

 and died in 1607. This Thomas had a son named 

 Oliver, who died 19th Oct. 1668, and was interred 

 with his grandfather in the old Abbey of Down- 

 patrick ; but in 1627 he was a mere child. We 

 learn from letters in Court and Times of Charles 

 the First, vol. i. pp. 271. 274. 283. 287., that 

 2400 Irish troops under Sir R. Bingley and Sir 



Pierce Crosby took part in the attack on Rhe, 



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[* There is no foundation for this report, — Ed.] 



that great slaughter was made of the English, 

 and chiefly of the Irish, who bore the first brunt 

 of the onset, and fought very bravely, that Lord 

 Westmeath was present, and that of prisoners of 

 note taken by the French were Lords Cromwell 

 and Mountjoy, and (p. 304.) that immediately 

 afterwards the French King freely sent over all 

 the English prisoners without ransom as a present 

 to Queen Henrietta Maria. The editor of Birch 

 errs in stating this Lord Cromwell to have been 

 Wingfield, eldest son of the above-named Thomas 

 and his successor in the peerage, as Wingfield who 

 succeeded his father in the Earldom of Ardglass 

 in 1650 (not 1653, as stated by the editor), was 

 then only in his fifth year, dying in Oct. 1668, in 

 his forty-sixth year. T. V. N. 



" Serte-silver," " Noke -silver" (2"" S. iii. 48.) — 

 The former of these, which is correctly spelt 

 " cert-silver," was a payment by the lord of a 

 manor for liberty for the resiants and tenants of 

 his manor to attend his Court Leet instead of the 

 Sheriffs' Tourn. The payment by the resiants and 

 tenants to the lord for this purpose was called a 

 common fine. I am indebted to a legal friend, a 

 constant reader of " N. & Q.," for this explana- 

 tion, which will be found in Cowell's Interpreter 

 and Blount's Dictionary, under the heads " Cert- 

 money" and " Common Fine." Of '* noke-silver" 

 I regret not to be able to give an equally satisfac- 

 tory explanation. But perhaps some clue to its 

 meaning may be found in Blount (art. Gavel- 

 SESTER, a certain measure of rent ale) : " Nor 

 differs it (I think) from what in the Glossary, at 

 the end of Hen. I.'s Laws, is called Oak-Gavcd." 

 If this last word be printed correctly, "oak-gavel" 

 might well become " noke-gavel," as the surname 

 Noakes is known to have been originally Oakes. 

 But I much fear that "ofl^-gavel" is a misprint 

 for " oaZ-gavel." I luipo that some of your legal 

 readers, however, will turn their attention to these 

 words, and favour " N. & Q ." with an explana- 

 tion of them and the words "hundredschot" and 

 " cumrage." E. G. R. 



Armorial Query (2"'^ S. vii. 10.) — If Mb. 

 Bingham has received no answer yet I may state, 

 as far as it may be a satisfactory one, from the 

 Ordinaries of Arms, that " argent, a chevron be- 

 tween three fleurs-de-lys gules," appears as the 

 coat for Chawmond or Holt. Gules, of course, 

 though only once used, applies equally to both 

 charges, as in Mb. Bingham's blason. 



Frecheville L. B. Dykes. 



Ingvvell. 



" God Save the King" (2""' S. vi. 475. 510.) — 

 The supposition of Dr. Gauntlett, that the Pro- 

 testant feeling of 1645 first gave the National 

 Anthem an existence as a people's song, and led 

 to its becoming the hymn of our battles and fes- 

 tivities, seems to obtain additional support from 



