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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[2nd s. xo 53^ j^j,_ 3 .57_ 



The Old Hundredth (2"'' S. i. 494.) — I see it 

 reported that there is a French Psalter of 1546 

 in the library of Lincoln cathedral, which, it is 

 said, contains the cantilena of this choral "exactly 

 as it is now sung in England." I presume there 

 must be some mistake here, and should this meet 

 the eye of the Precentor or Librarian of Lincoln, 

 he would much oblige by information on the 

 point. Dr. Crotch, in remarking on the psalter 

 tune given by Sternhold and Hopkins to the First 

 Psalm, observes that the third line is the same as 

 the second line of the Old Hundredth, which, as 

 Handel asserted, was the composition of Luther. 

 But as Dr. Crotch attributes this psalter tune to 

 Luther, who never composed it, no reliance can 

 be placed on his unsupported account of the tes- 

 timony by Handel. Handel has used several of 

 Luther's chorals, but he never touched the Old 

 Hundredth, — a tune the hearing of which, I 

 imagine, must have made him miserable. 



H. J. Gauntlett. 



Trafalgar Veterans. — I observed in a Number 

 of yours (2°'* S. ii. 445.) the name of a sailor, who 

 assisted in carrying Lord Nelson down into the 

 cockpit. At a meeting held at Great Yarmouth, 

 on October 28, for the purpose of raising by sub- 

 scription a sum necessary for the repairs of the 

 Nelson Column (i. e. 1000/.), the mayor said that 

 there were then present Capt. Smyth, Capt. 

 White, and Capt. Eyton, who were in the battle 

 with Nelson, and the brave seaman Sharman, the 

 guardian of the column, who was on the deck of 

 the "Victory," and was one of those who con- 

 veyed the wounded hero to the cockpit. At 

 Norwich is also Capt. St. Quintin, who was in the 

 engagement. 



A gentleman in this city has a portrait of the 

 hero, done when he was perhaps at the age of 

 twenty-four or twenty-six. It represents a pale, 

 plain man, with a powdered head, blue coat with 

 gilt metal buttons, and a white waistcoat turned 

 up with red. A lady seeing it some years after- 

 wards, exclaimed : " That is my cousin Nelson ! " 



The possessor can neither part with it, nor 

 allow a copy to be taken of it, as it was given 

 him by a friend, now in New Zealand or in Aus- 

 tralia, on those conditions. Z. 



N.B. I may add, that no person is required to 

 subscribe more than 51. 

 Norwich. 



Bell Founders in 1722 (2"^ S. ii. 467.) — It 

 seems strange that any lover of campanology, 

 — particularly a Gloucestershire man, — should not 

 have heard and been proud of "the good old 

 Church and State bell-founders," Abraham Rud- 

 hall, Sen., Abraham Rudhall, Jun., Abel Rudhall, 

 and Thomas Rudhall, who flourished in the ancient 

 foundry at Gloucester from 1684 to 1753, whose 



mere initials only are often to be seen on bells, so 

 well known were they. 



Abel is said to have been baptized by that 

 name because he was born with a bell marked on 

 his leg ! 



An epitaph of some of these worthies may be 

 seen, I think, in the Cloisters at Gloucester. 



H. T. E. 



Clyst St. George, 



Crooked Spires (2°'' S. il. 456. 478.) — Lowestoff 

 is crooked, and no doubt there are many such, 

 where they are constructed of framed oak and 

 covered with lead. They could not have been 

 made so originally. Is not the twist to be at- 

 tributed to the warping of the oak of which they 

 are constructed ? There is strength enough in 

 warping timber to distort and tear to pieces almost 

 the best workmanship, and produce such an effect 

 — especially where work is exposed to the heat 

 of the sun, and covered with under lead work — 

 and the stuff probably unseasoned when it was 

 worked up. See how crooked and warped are 

 some of the fine old carved oak bench ends and 

 rails inside, and under cover, unexposed to weather, 



H. T. Ellacombb. 



Clyst St. George. 



Cabinet Councils (2"'J^S. ii. 427.) — The fol- 

 lowing Note will show that the Hanoverian Kings 

 of Great Britain were not the first monarchs who 

 were prevented from presiding at ministerial 

 councils. Gulzot, in his History of Oliver Crom- 

 well and the English Commonwealth (vol. i. 133.), 

 has the subjoined passage, referring to a time 

 when Charles II. was the present and acknow- 

 ledged King in Scotland : 



"Charles was not present at the councils at which 

 public atFairs were discussed, and whenever he attempted 

 to converse seriously with Argyle on the subject, that 

 wily courtier respectfully eluded such conversatioa." 



Subsequently, however, when the extreme 

 Presbyterian party saw the necessity of tolerating 

 royalists of all shades, we are told (p. 148. vol. i.) 

 that : 



" A large number of moderate Presbyterians and even 

 Cavaliers hastened to profit by this permission. Hamil- 

 ton and Lauderdale returned to Court. Charles presided 

 over the council, and gave his attention without obstacle 

 to the affairs of the parliament and army." 



There were councils under Ina, in the seventh, 

 and Offa, in the following century. Spelman 

 ascribes the origin of State Councils to Alfred the 

 Great. Salmon, in his Chronological History, 

 states that cabinet councils, as distinct from privy 

 councils, originated under Charles I. ; and In the 

 notes to Lord Hervey's Memoirs, we hear of " an 

 interior council, of Walpole, the Chancellor, and 

 the Secretaries of State, who, in the first instance, 

 consulted together on the most confidential points'. 



