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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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Tyndale's liability to be styled an apostate, a name 

 especially given to monks who deserted their mo- 

 nastery (Concil. Andegav., c. x. a.d. 1060), had he 

 ever belonged to that body ; and yet, whilst he 

 continually calls Jerome and Roye apostates or 

 friars, he calls Tyndale either simply by his family 

 name, or Sir William, a species of title then given 

 to priests. As to the document of ordination, 

 " per Rev. pfem Dmn. Thoma Dei gratia Pavaden. 

 (Query, what place ?) epm, aucte Rev, pris Do- 

 mini Willem. permissione divina Londln. Willms 

 Tindale Carlii dioc. p. li. di. ad ti"" domus mo- 

 nialium de Lambley," since this nunnery, though 

 on the borders of Cumberland, was in the diocese 

 of Durham (vide Camden's Britannia), the 

 words " Carlii dioc." must refer to this William 

 Tindale, rather than to the benefice accepted as 

 his title ; and the translator's birthplace and abode 

 were in what was then the diocese of Worcester. 



I will only farther observe, that when Tyndale 

 calls " Jerome a brother of Greenwich also" he 

 had been speaking of Roye, who was such. (Pre- 

 face to Wicked Mammon, pp. 17-18.) 



If J. G. N. will consult Anderson's Annals, 

 B. i. § 1. pp. 22-3., he will probably be convinced 

 that the father of William Tyndale, the translator, 

 was Thomas, not John. 



If this article should induce any of your readers 

 to refer to the " Introductory Notice," P. Soc. 

 Tyndale's Works, p. 31., they will perceive that it 

 saya, " The Obedience preceded the Wicked Mam- 

 mon," where the context shows it should be fol- 

 lowed; for which I would not wish him to blame 

 the printer, but to pardon it as one of those over- 

 sights, — 



" Quas aut incuria fudit 

 Aut humana parum cavit natura." 



Henrt Walter. 



Hasilbury Bryan. 



" BANE " AND " BALE." 



(2°'^ S. iii, 204.) 



Few lovers of philology, I apprehend, will be 

 inclined to agree with Mr. Keightlet in his 

 opinion respecting these words ; viz. first, that 

 the latter has been " a perplexity to lexicogra- 

 phers ; " whereas Johnson gives a full and true 

 account and derivation of the same. Secondly, 

 that " hale is merely another form of hane, because 

 / and n are commutable ; " whereas the two words 

 are used by the same writers, constantly, on dif- 

 ferent occasions, with distinct and appropriate 

 significations. Thirdly, that " there is little dif- 

 ference of sense between baleful and baneful, much 

 less than between horn and borne ; " whereas the 

 difference is marked, not to say great ; the former 

 indicates "calamity, misery, ruin," — the latter, 

 " death." 



Take the following as instances of distinct use, 

 out of hundreds : 



" God send every good man bote of his bale." [t. e. help 

 in his affliction.] 



Chaucer, cone, of Chanon Yemmanes Tale. 



" But I was hurt right now thurghout min eye, 

 Into min herte, that wol my bane be." 



Chaucer, Knight's Tale, 1099. 

 Again : 



" Pand. Thou must to thy father, and begone from 

 Troilus, 'twill be his death ; 'twill be his bane [his mur- 

 der], he cannot bear it." — Troilus and Cressida, Act IV, 

 Sc. 2. 



" Our natures do pursue 

 (Like rats that ravin down their proper bane) 

 A thirsty evil ; and when we drink, we die." 



Measure for Measure, Act I. Sc. 3. 



" Rome and her rats are at the point of battle ; 

 The one side must have bale " [i. e. misery, ruin]. 

 Coriolanus, Act I. Sc. 1. 



And we find " baleful news," and " baleful mes- 

 sengers," in the 2nd and 3rd Henry VI., by which 

 term calamity and sorrow, not death, are indicated. 



On the whole, then, I think that when we ex- 

 amine the mode in which writers of authority use 

 these words, we find no difficulty in obtaining a 

 distinct and proper conception of each, or in as- 

 signing to each its appropriate place and employ- 

 ment. And when we turn to the source whence 

 they are derived, the matter is placed beyond a 

 doubt. 



Beal, balew, halo, &c., A.-S., 1. evil, misery; 

 2. wickedness, the devil. 



Bana, 1 . a murderer, manslayer ; 2. destruction, 

 death. 



I abstain from entering upon the obscure pas- 

 sage in Hamlet to which Mb. Keightlet alludes. 

 I am afraid it is hopelessly corrupt. Did It occur 

 in the first folio it might be otherwise. H. C. K, 



Kectory, Hereford. 



3R^tilijjS ta ;^tu0r ^ntxiti. 



The Orebim (2"^ S. i. 254. 403.)— A correspond- 

 ent has asked where Coleridge explains the Ore- 

 bim who fed Elijah to be Arabians, or people of 

 Orbo. The quotation sent in reply to him seems 

 to be from a Devonshire clergyman, probably, I 

 should think, the poet's father. 



But the same explanation is warmly advocated 

 by Adam Clarke, and had been given by Arch- 

 bishop Kennicott, after St. Jerome, and with 

 something like countenance from the Arabic 

 version. If therefore the theory, as a remon- 

 strance against it quoted by the first correspond- 

 ent implies, be either rationalistic or neological, 

 it follows that the Fathers of the Church, and 

 our own most approved expositors, are in similar 

 danger. St. Jerome, indeed, is full of "neology" 

 of that hind. He gravely lays down that St. 



