2nd s. NO 78., June 27. '57.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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Rubrical Queries (2"^ S. Hi. 348.)— To the second 

 of T.'s "Rubrical Queries," it is answered that 

 the " Amen " ought only to be said by the clergy- 

 man where it is printed in Roman letters : the 

 last Revision (1662) only has this distinctive man- 

 ner of printing (cf. Reeling's Liturgice Britan- 

 nicce). Wheatly says (Oxford, 1856, p. 106.) : — 



•* At the end of all the collects and prayers, -which the 

 priest is to repeat or say alone, it is printed in Italic, a 

 different character from the prayers themselves, to de- 

 note, I suppose, that the Minister is to stop at the end of 

 the prayer, and to leave the people to respond : but at 

 the end of the Lord's Prayer, Confessions, Creeds, &c., 

 and wheresoever the people are to join aloud with the 

 Minister, as if taught and instructed by him what to say, 

 there it is printed in Eoman, i. e. in the same character 

 •with the Confessions and Creeds themselves, as a hint to 

 the Minister that he is still to go on, and by pronouncing 

 the Amen himself, to direct the people to do the same ; 

 and so to set their seal at last to what they had been 

 before pronouncing." 



Procter (Hist. Bk. Com. Prayer, 1855, p. 190.) 

 to the same effect, adding : — 



" In the antiphonal portions, as at the end of the Gloria 

 Patri,_ the word is prmted in the same character, thus 

 directing it to be said by the same persons who have 

 said the ' Answer ' of the Gloria, it being a part of that 

 'Answer.' " 



Hook (Church Diet., s. v.) says : — 



" At the conclusion of prayers, it signifies • So be it,' 

 .... this explanation is given in the Church Catechism. 

 After the repetition of the Creed, it assumes the form of 

 an affirmation — verily, ' So it is.' I verily and indeed 

 believe what I have affirmed." 



J. B. WltKINSON. 



Weston Market. 



Thomas Blake'(2nd S. lil. 407.) — Lethbebien- 

 sis will find an account of Thomas Blake, M.A., 

 of Christ Church, Oxford, author of Living Truths 

 in Dying Times, in Wood's Aihence Oxon., by Bliss, 

 vol. iii. p. 431., also in Brook's Lives of the Puri- 

 tans, vol. iii. p. 269. 'AMevs. 



Dublin. 



Game of Clossynge (2"'^ S. iii. 367.)— This may 

 be the old game of closh, or nine-pins. Cowel 

 says : — 



" Clash, is an unlawful game, forbidden by the statute 

 made in the 17th year of E. 4. cap, 3., and is inhibited 

 also by the stat. 33 H. 8. c. 9. But there it is more pro- 

 perly called Clash ; for it is the throwing of a Bowl at 

 nine Pins of wood, or nine Shank-Bones of an ox or 

 horse, and it is now ordinarily called Kailes, or iVi'ne- 

 Pins. — Termes de la Ley. 



Bailey says : — 



" Closhe, ( Old Statutes,^ the game call'd nine-pins ; for- 

 bidden by statute, an. 17 Edw. IV." 



I am inclined to think that both the name and 

 the game were imported from Holland. The 

 Dutch have always had a fondness for skittles and 

 bowls. Even at the present day many of the 

 towns in Holland are surrounded with gardens, 



where the people amuse themselves at these 

 games. Moreover the Dutch has Klos, bobbin, 

 whirl, bowl ; Klosbaan, a place for playing; at 

 bowls ; Klosbytel, a scoop, or club to cast the bowl 

 with. Klossen, to play at bowls. They, however, 

 now generally make use oi Kegelbaan for a skittle- 

 ground, and Kegel (whence Kail, Kaile) for a 

 skittle. R. S. Charnock. 



Gray's Inn. 



Porpoises (2"^ S. iii. 446.) — I cannot answer 

 G. R. L.'s Query as to the means used in former 

 days to capture porpoises, although I remember to 

 have seen a mention somewhere of " engins " by 

 means of which these fish were taken. As to the 

 particular porpoises caught in Jersey in Sir Amyas 

 Poulett's time, I can supply the following informa- 

 tion, taken from a History of Jerse}^, which, after 

 remaining for above two centuries in manuscript, 

 was published in Guernsey, about five and twenty 

 years ago, under the title of Chroniques des iles de 

 Jersey, Guernsey, Aureguy et Serk. It will be 

 seen from this extract that the porpoises in ques- 

 tion ran themselves ashore in shallow water : 



" Environ ce temps-lh, [Mai, 1575] il y eut 87 Pour- 

 pays, d'une merveilleuse grandeur, quy tout en im coup 

 se jettferent h, terre en un lieu de la dite Isle, nomm^ la 

 Rocque, aux environs du Chateau de Mont-Orgueil, quy 

 furent tous prins tout d'un coup; en chascun d'iceux 

 Pourpays il y avoit bien la charge d'une Charette. Le 

 dit Sire Amice [Powlet] en fit beaucoup de presens, tant 

 es Seigneurs et Gentilshommes de la dite Isle, que aussi 

 es Ministres et h plusieurs autres gens de bien d'icelle et 

 ailleurs. C'estoit une chose estonnable ii tout le peuple 

 de voir une telle prinse de Pourpays et de sy grands tout 

 en un coup et en un mesme heu — il n'y avoit homme 

 vivant en toute la dite Isle quy eut veu jamais pareille 

 chose que celle-lk" 



Will G. R. L. kindly inform me where Sir 

 Amyas Poulett's letter, in which this wonderful 

 catch is mentioned, is to be found ? and whether 

 there is any collection in existence of his corre- 

 spondence while Governor of Jersey ? 



Edgab MacCulloch. 



Guernsey. 



Gallon of Bread (2"* S. iii. 427.) — I know 

 this term is used in Hampshire, because a lady 

 relative of mine, who is a native of Portsmouth, 

 and who has resided there nearly all her life, 

 always calls the quartern loaf a gallon of bread. 



Abmagh. 



This measure is used in Kent. 



J. C. R. 



" Tally Ho! " (2'"' S. iii. 415.) —I cannot agree 

 with J. DoRAN in believing that " tally-ho ! " 

 cannot be derived from au taillis. The tally-ho 

 takes place when the fox breaks cover, not when 

 he takes it ; and this surely would be expressed 

 by taillis hors. Ovns. 



Is not " Taillis hors," i.e. " out of the coppice," 

 the usually received etymology of this cry ? P. P. 



