Jan. 10. 1852.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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14th June, 1170. Benedictus Albus Roger, of 

 Wendover {Flowers of History), says that " a.d. 

 1170, on the 13th of July," the king's eldest son 

 was crowned by Roger, Archbishop of York. 



His wife Marguerite, of France, was also after- 

 wai'ds crowned in England, in consequence of her 

 father's complaint that she had not been included 

 in the former coronation of her husband, Henry 

 the younger (Rex Henricus junior), as he was 

 commonly styled in this country ; li reijs Josves 

 in the Norman language, and lo reis Joves in the 

 dialect of the southern provinces of France. He 

 himself afterwards assumed the title of Henry III. 

 regarding his father as virtually dead, owing to 

 the fond, but thoughtless, assertion of his indulgent 

 sire, at the period of the son's coronation, that 

 *' from that day forward tlie royalty ceased to 

 belong to him," — " se regem non esse protestari." 

 (^Vit. B. Thomce, lib. ii. cap. 31.) 



The Chronicon Petroburgense, again, under the 

 year 1183, records the death of the younger king 

 in these words, " Obiit Henricus tertius rex, filius 

 Henrici regis;" and afterwards notices the monarch 

 usually styled Henry ///. as " Henricus rex iiii'"^," 

 Henry IV. Sir Harris Nicholas says, that Henry 

 the younger is also " called by chroniclers Henry 

 III." 



It is a curious point,, because such a distinction 

 must often surely have been made in the days of 

 the jointly reigning Henrys, and immediately 

 after that time. The father and son certainly 

 seemed to have been regarded as for years jointly 

 reigning. For example, Roger of Wendover re- 

 cords that, in 1175, William of Scotland declared 

 himself the liegeman of Henry, for the kingdom of 

 Scotland and all his dominions, and did homage 

 and allegiance to him as his especial lord, " and to 

 Henry the king's son, saving his faith to his father." 

 In the following year both went through England, 

 " promising justice to every one, both clergy and 

 laity, which promise they afterwards fully per- 

 formed." (Roger of Wendover.) Surely, then, 

 for distinction sake, if not as a matter of right and 

 custom, the younger Henry should have been al- 

 ways styled Henry III. ; and if so, while he (not 

 to mention the Empress Maud and Queen Jane) 

 shall remain excluded, therefore, may I not again 

 with some show of reason ask, are our lists of 

 English sovereigns complete ? J. J. S. 



The Cloisters, Temple. 



Marriage Tithe in Wales. — Has Tithe of Mar- 

 riage Goods (called in Welsh " Degwm Priodas ") 

 been ever demanded or paid in recent times? 

 This appears to have offen been the custom since 

 the act of parliament (about 1549) declaring such 

 tithe to be illegal : but will the custom of three 



centuries (if such a custom has anywhere con- 

 tinued) confer a right to this peculiar tithe, in 

 spite of the act of parliament? What was the 

 nature of this tithe? and was it paid by either 

 party in case of widowhood ? H. H. H. V. 



" Preached in a Pulpit rather than a Tub." — The 

 following couplet is all that I remember of a 

 poem which was the subject of a violent news- 

 paper controversy, I think about 1818. Can any 

 one tell me where to find the rest ? 



" Preached in a pulpit rather than a tub, 

 And gave no guinea to thev Bible club." 



H. B. C. 

 U. U. C. 



Lord Wharton s Bibles. — In some parishes there 

 are given away, as a reward for learning, certain 

 Psalms and Prayers, Bibles bearing the inscription 

 " The gift of Philip Lord Wharton." How are these 

 Bibles to be obtained for any particular parish ? 



Sylva, M.A. 



Reed Family. — In A Perfect Diurnall of some 

 Passages in Parliament and the dayly Proceedings 

 of the Army under his Excellency the Lord Fairfax, 

 April 20, 1649, No. 298., mention is made of one 

 Lieut.- Col. John Reed, governor, under Fairfax, of 

 the town and county of Poole, the first town 

 making a public " demonstration of adhesion to 

 the present Parliament sitting at Westminster." 

 A note by Sir James Mackintosh, to whom this 

 volume belonged, leads me to inquire whether any 

 of your readers can afford information as to the 

 subsequent career of this John Reed, and whether 

 he can be identified by any local history as con- 

 nected with either the Dorset or Devon families of 

 that name. F. S. A. 



Paternoster Row. 



Slavery in Scotland. — In the Scottish Antiqua- 

 rian Society's Museum in Edinburgh there is a 

 brass collar with the following inscription : 



" Alexander Stewart, found guilty of death for theft, 

 at Perth, December 5, 1701 — gifted by the Justi- 

 ciaries as a perpetual servant to Sir John Areskine of 

 Aloa." 



When was this custom done away with ? 



E. F. L. 



Leslie, Bishop of Down. — Can any of your cor- 

 respondents give any information as to the father 

 of Henry Leslie, some time Bishop of Down and 

 Connor, and who was promoted at the Restoration 

 to the bishopric of Meath, where he died ? 



E. F. L. 



Chaplains to the Forces. — When was this ap- 

 pointment first made ? and where is any list of the 

 successive chaplains to be found ? G. 



John of Horsill. — Could either of your cor- 

 respondents favour me with an account of this 

 worthy ? Tradition states he held the manors of 



