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as barons, whilst the countesses their wives were 

 living, and no longer. Thus it is possible that 

 Fitz-VVarine was summoned, because he had mar- 

 ried the countess and " queen ; " and his son Ivo 

 was not summoned, because he was the son of 

 Amicia Haddon. 



With regard to the titles of King or Queen of 

 Man, they do not appear to be recognised by 

 records, but merely by the chroniclers, Dugdale 

 has quoted from the history of Thomas de la Marc, 

 that William, Earl of Salisbury, having in 16 Edw. 

 III. (1342) conquered the Isle of Man (from the 

 Scots), the king gave him the inheritance, and 

 croioned him king thereof; and Walsingham and 

 Otterbourne (p. 153.) relate that the Vice-Cham- 

 berlaine, Sir William Scrope, in 16 Ric. II. (1393) 

 purchased the sovereignty of the Isle of Man cum 

 corona. But the word dominus, not rex, is em- 

 ployed in Latin records, and seigneur in French. 

 On the seal of the first Earl of Salisbury he is 

 styled dominusde dynhiet mannie, and on his counter- 

 seal dominus de man et de dynbi ; and on a counter 

 or privy seal of the second earl he is styled 

 dominus mannie et de dynbi (i. e. Denbigh, not 

 " Derby," as misprinted in p. 132. anted). These 

 seals have been recently engraved in the Salisbury 

 volume of the Archaeological Institute. The second 

 earl in his will, made the 20th April, 1397, styles 

 himself " Earl of Salisbury and Lord of the Isles 

 of Man and Wiht," although he had then sold the 

 lordship of Man some years before. In the Har- 

 leian charters is a bond from the purchaser to the 

 famous Sir Richard Whityngton, citizen and mer- 

 cer of London, dated 29th Aug. 1393, in which he 

 is described as " William le Scrope, Seigneur de 

 Man et des Isles;" and in the truce with Fi-ance 

 on the 10th March, 1394, "Monsieur Gwilliam le 

 Scrope" is recorded to have assented to the pro- 

 ceedings " pour le seigneury de Man," as one of the 

 allies of the King of England. (^Foedera, iii. part iv. 

 p. 95.) It is not easy to determine when or where 

 these potent subjects really assumed the ranker title 

 of" king" and "queen ;" and it must be recollected 

 that the King of England himself was at the same 

 period content to call himself only " Lord of Ire- 

 land," as the Earl of Salisbury was " Lord of Man." 



It may stimulate Mk. Gibson, as a north coun- 

 tryman, to further researches in this matter to 

 remind him that it is to Katharine, Countess of 

 Salisbury, at the Castle of Wark in Northumber- 

 land, that Mr. Beltz has traced the anecdote re- 

 lated by Froissart of the especial admiration which 

 King Edward III. conceived for a Countess of 

 Salisbury ; connected with which are some of the 

 legendary stories of the origin of the Order of the 

 Garter (see Memorials of the Garter, pp. 63. et 

 seq.). It would be a remarkable fact to ascertain 

 that the object of the king's gallantry became 

 afterwards even a nominal queen. 



John Govgh Nichols. 



Bastides (Vol. v., p. 150.). — The town of 

 Kingston-upon-Hull was founded by King Ed- 

 ward I., when he returned from Scotland, through 

 Yorkshire, in 1299, and it may be seen in Hollar's 

 map of the town, as it was in 1 640, that the ground 

 plan coincides exactly with Mb. Parker's descrip- 

 tion of the " Villes Anglaises " in France. F. HH. 



Brunehaut (Vol. iv., p. 86.). — Pasquier is the 

 great author originally in her favour. Hallam 

 refers also to Vellay, Hist, de France, torn. i. on one 

 side, and a dissertation by Gaillard in i\iQ Memoirs 

 of the Academy of Inscriptions, tom. xxx. on the 

 other. Hallam himself was against her. In his 

 Supplement, p. 19., he is rather undecided. 



Michelet and Sismondi do not seem to defend 

 her ; nor, I believe, Guizot, who considers there 

 was a constant struggle between the Frank and 

 Roman inhabitants, and that Fredegonde and 

 Brunehaut were the heads and types respectively 

 of the two races, and their respective principles of 

 government. C. B. 



Job (Vol. v., pp. 26. 140.). — The criticisms of 

 your correspondent Reohabite are of so singular 

 a character, that I must beg him to excuse my 

 passing over, unnoticed, the first paragraph. 



The second appears calculated to traduce the 

 character of a man celebrated for his integrity, 

 judgment, accurateness, preciseness, and skill ia 

 his "sketches, &c. The Inscriptio Persepolitanay 

 p. 333., is his own sketch : " Verum, unius de- 

 scriptio tarn longam mihi facessebat operam (ob 

 loci altitudinem et solares radios permolestam) ut 

 parum abesset, quin a ceteris abstinere coactus 

 fuerim." (P. 332.) There were three others : " In- 

 scriptionis quadruplex quasi tabula spectatur." 

 Perhaps it may be one of the latter ones that 

 Rechabite has seen in Niebuhr and Porter. I 

 have not seen those works. 



Next, why does Rechabite not say what are 

 the two letters which I have translated as two 

 words containing eight letters? 



And now for my theory, and Major Rawlinson's 

 improved translation of the inscription, all together. 

 Let the reader of "N. & Q." turn to Kaempfer, 

 p. 341., and he will see the procession that is de- 

 scribed in p. 333. Does he think that Ormazd, 

 Xerxes, Darius, or Achaemenes is there ? I assure 

 him that they are not mentioned. In fact, the 

 enoxavings were made long before the date 694 

 B.C., when Achajmenes began his reign. But it 

 appears that an Egyptian reed is thought sufficient 

 to prop up a structure raised in the sand. 



Finally, my great desire is, that some spirited 

 person would take up the matter, and let the old 

 and new system be tried by proper tests ; and let 

 the conquered have a decent burial. 



T. R. Beown. 

 Southwick, near Oundle. 



