June 5. 1852.] 



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any other remains of the dodo than those enume- 

 rated by Mr. Strickland ; and had there been any 

 at Nettlecombe, they would long ago have been 

 known to naturalists. 



" I remain, Sir, 



" Yours faithfully, 

 "W. C. Tbeveltan. 

 To Mr. A. D. Bartlett, 

 12. College Street, Camden Town." 



WHIPPING OP PBINCES BY PROXY. 

 (Vol. v., p. 468.) 



Your correspondent who makes inquiry about 

 "Whipping-boys of Princes, I would refer to a 

 very scarce old play from which I give an ex- 

 tract, and in which the whipping-boy was knighted, 

 When You see Mee You know Mee, as it was 

 played by the High and Mighty Prince of Wales 

 his Servants, by Samuel Rowley, London, 1632 : 



"Prince (Ed. VI.). Why, how now, Browne; 

 what's the matter ? 



Browne. Your Grace loyters, and will not plye 

 your booke, and your tutors have whipt me for it. 



Prince. Alas, poore Ned ! I am sorrie for it. I'll 

 take the more paines, and entreate my tutors for thee ; 

 yet, in troth, the lectures they read me last night out 

 of Virgil and Ovid I am perfect in, onely I confesse I 

 am hehind in my Greeke authors. 



Will (Summers). And for that speech they have 

 declined it uppon his breech," &c. — Pages 48 53. 



He will also find the subject noticed by Sir 

 "Walter Scott, Fortunes of Nigel, ch. vi. p. 114. 

 vol. xxvi. of Waverley Novels, Edinburgh, 1833, 

 8vo. ; and also by Burnet in The History of his 

 mvn Time. The latter, in speaking of Elizabeth, 

 Countess of Dysart, whom he describes as an 

 intrigante, and who afterwards became Duchess 

 of Lauderdale, says her father, William Murray, 

 had been page and whipping-boy to Charles I. 

 We hear nothing of such office being held by any 

 one in the household of Prince Henry, the elder 

 brother of Charles I. ; nor, if we can believe 

 Cornwallis and others, can we suppose that 

 " incomparable and heroique " prince infringed 

 the rules of discipline, in any respect, to justify 

 any castigation. It does not appear that it was 

 the practice to have such a substitute in France ; 

 for Louis XIV., who was cotemporary with our 

 Charles I., on one occasion, when he was sensible 

 of his want of education, exclaimed, " Est-ce 

 qu'il n'y avait point de verges dans mon rovaume, 

 pour me forcer a etudier?" And Mr. 'Prince 

 {^Parallel History, 2nd edition in 3 vols. 8vo., 

 London, 1842-3, at p. 2G2. vol. iii.) states, that 

 George III., when Dr. Markham inquired " how 

 his Majesty would wish to have the princes 

 treated?"— "Like the sons of any private English 

 gentleman," was the sensible reply ; " if they de- 

 serve it, let them be flogged : do as you used to do 



at "Westminster." This is very like the character- 

 istic and judicious language of the honest monarch. 



Richmond. 



«. 



Me. Lawrence has overlooked King Edward's 

 most celebrated whipping-boy, Barnaby Fitz- 

 patrick (as to whom see Fuller, Church History^ 

 ed. 1837, ii. 342. ; Strype's Ecclesiastical Memo- 

 rials, ii. 287. 331. 460. 503. ; Burnet, History of the 

 Reformation, ed. 1841, 456. ; Tytler's Edward VI. 

 and Queen Mary, ii. 85.). I confess I do not re- 

 collect having before heard either of Brown or 

 Mungo Murray, and hope Mr. Lawrence will 

 give particulars respecting them. 



It seems very clear that Henry YI. was chas- 

 tised personally ; see a record cited (from Rymer, 

 X. 399.) in History of England and France under 

 the House of Lancaster, p. 418. C. H. Cooper. 



Cambridge. 



Vitpliti to n^inor ^uerteiS. 



Penkenol (Vol. v., p. 490.). — Head of a family 

 or tribe, from the Celtic : see penhenedl, Welsh ; 

 ceanncinnidh, or cineal, Gaelic ; of which ken-kenal 

 is a Lowland corruption. The inference drawn 

 from the three crescents (borne as a difference) 

 almost explains the meaning of the word. Aubrey 

 was a Welshman. De Cameron. 



Penkenol was probably written in error for 

 peracenedl, the head of a sept or family. Pennant 

 so uses the word in his Whiteford and Hollywell, 

 p. 33. The Welsh pronunciation of dl as thl will 

 point to an obvious Greek analogy, which Davies's 

 Dictionary carries to an earlier source. 



Lancastriensis. 



Johnny Crapaud (Vol. v., pp. 439. 523.). — I can- 

 not but think that the solution of Mr. Philip S. 

 King's Query about " Johnny Crapaud" will be 

 found in the circumstance that three frogs are 

 the old arms of France ; and I would refer him, 

 if he needs it, to the Rev. E. B. Elliott's Horcs 

 ApocalypticcE, where the reasons for believing that 

 such were the arms of France are fully given and 

 illustrated by a plate, vol. iv. p. 64. ed. 1847. I 

 may add that, for what reason I don't know, but 

 perhaps Mr. Metivier does, the natives of Jersey 

 are called crapauds by Guernsey men, who in 

 return are honoured by the title of unes, asses. 



Perez. 



Sir John Damall (Vol. v., p. 489.). — Sir John 

 Darnall, Serjeant-at-Law 1714, knighted 1724, 

 died Sept. 5, 1731, and was buried at Petersham, 

 leaving by Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas 

 Jenner, two daughters and coheirs: Mary the 

 elder married in 1727 Robert Orde, Esq., Lord 

 Chief Baron of Scotland ; and Anne the younger 

 married in 1728 Henry Muilman of London, Esq., 



