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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[2nd s. X. Sept. 22. '60. 



Lord Hale who held a different opinion, con- 

 tending that the seat was incidental to the see? 

 The sees created by Henry VIII. had no tempo- 

 ralities, and yet the Bishops of Gloucester and 

 Oxford sat in Parliament. Where is Lord Hale's 

 opinion to be found ? Bishop Warburton, in his 

 Alliance between Church and State, asserts that 

 tenure has nothing to do with the baronial sitting 

 of a bishop. J. R« 



Heron of Chipchace. — It was supposed that 

 the baronetcy given to this family at the" Resto- 

 ration, became extinct on the death of the fifth 

 baronet, Sir Thomas Heron Middleton, who took 

 the latter name in compliance with the will of his 

 maternal uncle, Francis Middleton, Esq., of Of- 

 ferton, co. Pal., and died s.p.m. in 1801. The 

 title, however, was assumed by Cuthbert Heron, 

 Esq., of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and South Shields, 

 who transmitted it to his son Sir Thomas Heron, 

 the last male representative of the family. Can 

 any of your correspondents inform me what was 

 the relationship between the late Sir Cuthbert 

 Heron and his predecessors in the title ? 



novocastrensis. 



Exchange at Little Tuenstile : Nobden's 

 View of London. — There is a passage in a work 

 now but little known or referred to, relating first 

 to Dulwich College, and in the next place, it is 

 presumed, to the narrow avenue in Holborn now 

 named Little Turnstile, which may deserve far- 

 ther preservation among " N. & Q." It occurs in 

 the Monthly Miscellany, or Memoirs for the Cu- 

 rious (4to. Lond. 1708, vol. ii. p. 176.) : — 



"Dulwich College, erected by John Allen, who for- 

 merly had been a strolling player. There is a Library, in 

 which is a Collection of Plaj's given by Mr. Chartwright, 

 who was bred a Bookseller, and kept a shop at the end 

 of Turn-stile Allej', which was at first designed for a 

 Change for the vending of Welsh Frizes, Flannels, &c., 

 as is still visible to be seen by the left side as you go 

 from Lincoln's Inn Fields, which is now divided ; it is 

 turned with arches. Chartwright was an excellent player, 

 and besides his Plays gave them many excellent Pictures. 



" I have seen there a View of London, taken by Mr. 

 Norden in 1603. On the bottom is the View of My Lord 

 Mayor's Show. I never saw another of them." 



Can any of your readers supply farther infor- 

 mation as to the " Exchange " affirmed to have 

 been established at Turnstile ; or of the existence 

 at the present time of this " View of London " ? 



H. E. 



Plaid and Tabtan. — Are these words con- 

 nected in meaning ? And what is the strict sig- 

 nification of each ? J. J. S. 



Poetbait. — I am in possession of an old por- 

 trait, representing a gentleman in a fantastic dress 

 playing the flute. He wears a handsome scarlet 

 robe, or roquelaire ; and a fur cap, with gilt tassel, 

 on his head. The hands and features are nearly 

 life-size, and the canvas measures 3 ft. by 2 ft. 



3 in. The style and colouring resemble that of 

 Sir Joshua Reynolds. 



Perhaps some of your numerous readers might 

 inform me whom the portrait is intended to re- 

 present ? G. P. 



Stone Coffins. — What was the mode adopted 

 of burials in stone cofiins ? Those stone coffins 

 we see occasionally exhumed are so heavy that 

 they could not have been borne on men's shoul- 

 ders, and must have taken very strong carriages 

 to convey them to the grave. It was not imcom- 

 mon to make them inside of the shape of the 

 corpse ; this would render them still heavier ! Or, 

 on the other hand, was not the corpse carried to 

 the place of sepulchre, and then laid in the coffin ? 



J. L. Phelps. 



Edgbaston. 



Foeenoon Men. — In vol. i. of Gurnall's Chris- 

 tian Armour, p. 138., ed. 1664, he speaks of certain 

 persons who, he says, "are like some physicians 

 that they c&M fore-noon men, they that would speak 

 with them to any purpose must come in the morn- 

 ing, because commonly they are drunk in the 

 afternoon." S. Beislt. 



Sydenham. 



Clovis : BiDLoo. — In Three Months on the 

 Rhine (Lond. 1817, pp. 284.) is a cursory notice 

 of the popular German writers, which, if not very 

 good, does not seem to be copied. In it (p. 261.) 

 Wieland and Alxinger are stated to have copied 

 largely from the neglected poem of "Clovis" much 

 of which has been transferred, with little alter- 

 ation and no acknowledgment, to the pages of 

 Oberon and Doolin. Schiller is also said to have 

 used " a little of Otway and much of Bidloo " in 

 his Karlos. Are these charges true ? and who 

 wrote Clovis, of which I can find no account? 

 Who was Bidloo ? H. E. W. 



BOYDBLL AND StAINES, LoED MaYOBS OF LON- 

 DON, theie Abms. — Can any of your heraldic 

 readers tell me the arms of John Boydell, Sheriff 

 of London and Middlesex 1784, Lord Mayor 

 1791 ; and Sir William Staines, Knt., Sheriff 

 1796, Lord Mayor 1801? 



I have consulted the usual heraldic dictionaries 

 (Berry, Burke, &c.) without success, or I would 

 not have troubled you with these trivial inquiries. 

 I may add that the Staines arms were, as I find 

 by the programme, borne on a banner at the last 

 Lord Mayor's Show, and that the crest of the Boy- 

 dell family is a Saracen's head, with a long cha- 

 peau turned up, ermine. H. S. G. 



Sayebs the Caricaturist. — The account given 

 by H. F. (ante, p. 220.) of Sayers's poetical and 

 political talents, mduce me to request any readers 

 of "N. & Q." who may be possessed of informa- 

 tion respecting his works to put the same on 

 record in your columns, as contribution towards 



