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NOTES AND QUfitllES. 



r2n«S. N°SO., July 2G, '56. 



harbour, so wholly invisible from seaward that 

 when the captain, taking to his boat, found out an 

 entrance, he was filled with "astonishment more 

 easily conceived than described." C. 



Jeivish Pei'siiasion (2'"' S. i. 492.) — Centurion 

 proposes what seems to me a very odd question. 

 Persuasion is a very common synonyme for reli- 

 gious belief. It means (not that a man has been 

 persuaded by any one to adopt a creed, but) that 

 he is what he is hy conviction. An instance of the 

 use of the term occurs in Goldsmith's History of 

 England, where one motive which induced Percy 

 to write his mysterious letter to Lord Monteagle 

 is said to be because the latter " was of the same 

 persuasion as himself." C. H. S. (Clk.) 



Rev. R. Montgomery (2"'> S. I. 293. 321. 400. 

 521.) — (x. professes to write "for the sake of 

 accuracy," and endorses D.'s communication as 

 " correct." Now D. said that the evidence of u 

 baptismal register had never been adduced. James 

 Darmng, however, showed that this had been ad- 

 duced. And yet says G., D.'s communication is 

 "correct ! " What would convince G. ? A bap- 

 tismal register is evidence in a court of law; and 

 therefore G. must prove that Mr. Montgomery 

 sent a forged certificate to the Quarterly, or else 

 must submit to be deemed inaccurate. A Bath 

 Directory is of no weight against a baptismal 

 register. /5. y. 5. 



Meaning of^^hayne'' (2"^ S. ii. 49.)— J. E. should 

 have stated which his " neighbourhood" is. It is 

 not a frequent termination in any district that I 

 remember. It may i)ossibly be the plural of hay, 

 a hedge. C. 



Parochial Libraries (2"'» S. i. 459.) — There 

 was one attached to the parish church of Wester- 

 ham, Kent : 



" One Charles West gave the parish by will in 1765, 

 together with 100/. stock for the use of the poor, a library 

 of books consisting of several hundred volumes, many of 

 them curious and rare. The catalogue of these books is 

 carefully preserved in the parish chest, but the books 

 themselves are nowhere to be found." — George's Wester- 

 ham Journal, April 1, 1844. 



Westerham church has unfortunately often fallen 

 into bad hands : its library has gone, many of its 

 brasses have been removed, in some instances by 

 those who should have protected them. A writer 

 in the Gent's Mag., 1807, complains of seeing 

 one acting as fender to the clerk's fire-place! 

 There are several excellent specimens still exist- 

 ing, one of which has been recently engraved by 

 Mr. Dunkin in his History of Kent ; but if not re- 

 moved to some other part of the church, or aflSxed 

 to the wall near, it will (being just within the 

 porch) be worn to a level with the paving. But 

 all has been " low and slow:" a fine roof lath and 

 plastered over, pews like sheep pens, windows cut 



about, and everything done to deface and to spoil 

 what otherwise would have been an imposing, 

 though not handsome, structure. 



I believe, however, that a different spirit in 

 some measure has been awakened, and that there 

 are those now who would prevent any further 

 devastation. H. G. D. 



Validity of English Orders (2"'' S. i. 476.) — 

 No one doubts that the practice in the church of 

 Home is, and long has been, to deny the validity 

 of English orders ; but it is a curious point of 

 history that this practice was by no means uniform 

 at the time of the Reformation. Thus Latimer 

 was taken for no true bishop, and not degraded 

 from the episcopal order, while several others 

 who had been consecrated exactly as Latimer was, 

 but conformed under Queen Mary, were at once 

 acknowledged bishops, without re-consecration. 



ft. 7- 5. 



Religious Play before Henry VITI. at Green- 

 wich in 1527 (2'"> S. ii. 24.)— C. M. has failed to 

 remark the errors made by Mr. Froude in his rno- 

 derniscd version of tlie old account respecting 

 this play. They ai*e of more importance than the 

 question whether Mr. Froude copied from Mr. 

 Colliei', or not; whilst they pretty clearly show 

 that he did not copy from the Annals of the Stage, 

 as docs the circumstance of Mr. Froude quoting 

 from the Rolls House, where the MS. is now de- 

 posited, instead of the Chapter House, where it was 

 when Mr. Collier wrote. Mr. Froude has omitted 

 two of the dramatis persona, the Poet, and one of 

 the ladies of Bohemia, named Corruption of Scrip- 

 ture ; the three orthodox characters, Religio, 

 Ecclesia, and Veritas, he has converted into 

 widows instead of novices, and their veils into 

 " suits" of lawn and cypress. Neither Mr. Froude 

 nor, Mr. Collier explain how Luther was "lyke a 

 party freer;" but I imagine the term applies to 

 his costume : he was " in russet damaske and blahe 

 taffata," — a sort oi party or mongrel friar, some- 

 thing like a wet Quaker. Neither is it explained 

 how it was that the children of Paul's required so 

 many as six boats for their conveyance to court : 

 but I have little doubt that the six boats vyere, as 

 six cabs might be now, employed at six different 

 times, either at six several visits to the court (for 

 the rehearsals as well as the performance), or for 

 three visits, one boat on each occasion being hired 

 for going to Greenwich, and the other for re- 

 turning. J- G. Nichols. 



Numerous Families (2"^ S. ii. 39.) — In the 

 church of St. Nicolas, at Ghent, there is a tablet 

 to the memory of Oliver Minjau and Amalberga 

 Slangen, his wife, who were the parents of thirty- 

 one children, twenty-one boys and ten girls. Old 

 Oliver appeared at the head of his twenty-one 

 sons, all in uniform, when Charles V. made his 



