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:n'Otes and queries. 



[2nd s. N" 48., Nov. 29. '66. 



traditional tale of L-eland, ttnth other Poems, 8vo., 

 1810; Spain Delivered, and other poems, 8vo., 

 1813? R. IngliSo 



Punch and Judy. — Can any of your readers 

 inform me of the origin of the term and characters 

 of " Punch and Judy ? " 



Mr. Timbs, in his work entitled Things not ge- 

 nerally known, says : 



" Punch and Judy is tlie relic of an ancient mystery. 

 'Pontius eum Judceis,' or Pontius Pilate with the Jews; 

 particularly in reference to St. Matt., xxvii. 19."* 



On what grounds does this statement rest, and 

 •where can I obtain some more satisfactory and 

 decisive explanation of it ? Henry H. Godwin. 



42. Upper Gower Street, Bedford Square. 



J. N. Barker. — Could any of your American 

 readers inform me whether an American author of 

 the name of J. N. Barker is still living ? He 

 wrote The Indian Princess, Marmion, and other 

 dramas. Mr. Barker was an alderman of Phila- 

 delphia. R, Inglis. 



Authorship of a Poem wanted. — Who was the 

 author of a poem which commences — 



*' Behold this ruin ! 'twas a skull, 

 Once of ethereal spirits full," &c. 



and which is said to have been found in the ske- 

 leton case at the Royal Academy. A. P. 



Armorial. — In a church in Leicestershire I 

 lately met with the following arms, impaled on the 

 sinister side of a shield, on an ancient monument : 

 Ermine, two chevronels, gules. If any of your 

 readers would inform me to what family the arms 

 may be correctly assigned, I should feel obliged. 



Jaytee. 



" Olden Times.''' — Who is the author of Olden 

 Times ; or the Rising of the Session, a comedy, 

 1841 ? It is said to have been written by a mem- 

 ber of the Scottish Supreme Law Courts. 



R. Inglis. 



Ancient Parliamentary Speech. — I think the 

 following speech, which I found in a MS. journal 

 of proceedings in Pai'liament {circa 1630), worthy 

 of preservation ; and I hope, by sending it to "N. 

 & Q.," to receive some information both as to the 

 speaker and the subject of his speech : — 



« June 9, 1628. Sir Robert Mansfield {loq.) 



" In King James's time an Ambassador came ; and be- 

 cause he might not have the best ship to carry him over 



r* Mr. Timbs is in this case quoting, we believe, from 

 " N. & Q.," l'« S. V. GIO. In vol. vi. p. 43. it was sug- 

 gested that Judy was a corruption of Judas, and the 

 original querist asked for his authority, and at p. 184. ad- 

 mitted he had received it on oral tradition, and could not 

 adduce any. Since then the question, which is a very 

 curious one, has been dropped. We are glad to see it 

 thus revived. — Ed. " N. & Q,."} 



he went in a ship of his own ; 1 then being Admiral, 

 made my Vice-Admiral never leave shooting at hira till 

 he took in his flag." 



In Rusliworth's Collections, vol. i. p. 285., he 

 mentions " Sir Robert Mansfield's fleet upon the 

 coast of Spain," a.d. 1621 ; and in p. 471., Sir 

 Robert Mansfield's expedition to Algiers, 1621; 

 but in the same vol., p. 34., " Sir Robert Mansel 

 sent into the Mediterranean seas, a.d. 1621 ;" and 

 Camden mentions Sir Robt. Mansel's departure in 

 August, 1620, and the result of Sir Robt. Mawn- 

 sell's expedition in October, 1621. 



It would thus appear that the plain-spoken 

 Admiral was called indifferently Mansel, Maun- 

 sell, or Mansfield ; and we might suppose him to 

 be of the Mansells of Carmarthenshire, but Willis, 

 in his Notitia, p. 175., Pari. Anno 12 Jac. I. gives 

 us, as members of Parliament for Carmarthen : 



" Carmarthen co., Robert Mansell, Knt. 



„ vil., Robert Mansfield, Knt." 



Query, which of these is the real Simon Pure ? 

 or are they the same person, and Willis in error ? 



Query second, who was the " Ambassador In 

 King James's time ?" and is the incident referred 

 to by Sir Robert to be found recorded in print ? 



W. K. R. B. 



Rhubarb, when introduced ? Charles Bryant of 

 Norwich. — Is it known when rhubarb was first 

 grovm in this country ? I have seen it asserted 

 that 1 790 is the year, and Tottenham, in Middle- 

 sex, the place. This cannot be tlie case ; for 

 Bryant, in his Escident Plants, 1783, mentions it 

 as being grown in England, and frequently used 

 for tarts. 



Perhaps some of your botanical readers can give • 

 further particulars as to Charles Bryant of Nor- 

 wich, and the period of his death. 



Henry T. Rilet. 



Jacobite Songs : Lord Lovat. — At the trial of 

 Lord Lovat, in 1747, for his connection with the 

 Scottish Rebellion of 1745, a witness deponed — 



" That Lovat, with six others, signed and sealed an 

 association, and sent it to Paris and Rome by Murray of 

 Broughton in 1740, the purport of which was to inform 

 the Pretender of their readiness to appear in arms for his 

 service and soliciting an invasion from France, and that 

 these persons at their meetings drank healths and sung 

 catches, such as, Confusion to the white horse arid all its 

 generation, and 



' When Jemmy comes o'er, 

 JFe shall have blood and blows good store,' 



which last were originally composed in Irish." — Scots 

 Mag. for March, 1747. 



Can any of your correspondents furnish the 

 remaining lines of the above-mentioned ditties, 

 or say where the latter are to be found ? G. N. 



The Sibyl. — On the fly-leaf of a copy of The 

 Curse of Kehama I find a note referring to the 



