July 22. 1854.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



73. 



accustomed to make a very low obeisance of this 

 kind : the posture being retained during the whole 

 of the Gloria, which, in a musical service, is often 

 of from three to five minutes' duration, if not more. 



E. H. A. mentions Durham Cathedral (Vol. ix., 

 p. 567.) ; and in the same paragraph says, that 

 where the Bidding Prayer is used, he believes it 

 is usual for the people to stand during the Lord's 

 Prayer. I have always seen the reverse of this in 

 Durham Cathedral and elsewhere. In St. George's 

 Church, Kidderminster, the people were ac- 

 customed to stand when this prayer occurred in 

 the Second Lesson. 



Five or six years ago it was the custom in 

 Durham Cathedral to have the Communion 

 (sacramental) service partially sung on the first 

 Sunday in every month. A portion of the cho- 

 risters (both men and boys) were arranged for 

 this purpose at desks within the rails, to the north 

 and south of the altar. The service was read up 

 to the Sursum Corda, when the choir took up the 

 responses. After the thanksgiving, the words 

 " Therefore with angels," &c. were said, and the 

 choir did not join until the proper place. The 

 same custom was observed on other Sundays with 

 the clerks and people ; who only joined in at the 

 words " Holy, holy, holy," &c. (Palmer refers to 

 the people, " owing to the want of a clear rubrical 

 direction," commonly repeating, not only the Ter- 

 sanctus; but also the "portion of the preface;" 

 Orig. Lit. ii. 127. For this "Trisagion," see also 

 Bingham, Antiq. 772. edit. 1846.) During the 

 time of the delivering the Elements, an organ 

 voluntary was played, with an eflect both beauti- 

 ful an<l impressive. In the Post-Communion, the 

 choir joined in the Lord's Prayer ; and then, all 

 standing, sang the " Gloria in Excelsis." 



CUTHBEET BeDE, B.A. 



PHOTOGEAPHIC COEEESPONDENCB. 



Mr. Lyte's Process (Vol. x., p. 51.).— In the event of 

 Mr. Lytk's absence, I bes; to sugi^est, in answer to 

 C. H. C, that although iodide of silver is insoluble in 

 water, it is soluble in solution of nitrate of silver, in which 

 Mr. Lyte directs that it shall \fe dissolved, according to 

 C. H. C.'s own showing. Geo. Shadbolt. 



Plant's Camera. — In Mr. Dilke's Special Report of the 

 New York Industrial Exhibition, that gentleman states : 



" M. H. Plant, of Paris, exhibits a camera box (with- 

 out lens) for taking photographs on paper, together with 

 a multiple frame for holding a number of sheets of pre- 

 pared (dry) paper, and transferring them to the camera 

 slide, and again from thence to the opposite side of the 

 frame (after having received the impression), without 

 exposure to light. The whole apparatus appears to be 

 ingeniously and judiciously contrived; and the work- 

 manship and fitting (on wliich so much of its usefulness 

 must depend) are admirable." 



The object of my present communication is to ask 

 whether M. Plant's camera is known in England, and 



where it may be seen ; or, if not the camera itself, some 

 fuller description of it ? P. CS. 



Wax-paper Process. — The c^rol^me process does not 

 appear to have many advocates, because perhaps, in the 

 first .stage, the paper is not so transparent as is expected. 

 Has, however, the solution of the iodide of silver, when 

 made with spirits of wine, failed when used to iodize 

 waxed paper? Thomas Falconer. 



3RppI{ei to ^tnor eaucrfes. 



Old Army Lists (Vol. ix., p. 589.). — Y. S. M. 

 will find army lists, from 1730* to 1854 inclusive, 

 at Messrs. Parker, Furnivall, and Parker's esta- 

 blishment, 30. Charing Cross, London ; and as his 

 letters are generally dated from Dublin, he will 

 find several very curious army lists, from 1743 on, 

 in the library of Trinity College, Dublin. Your 

 correspondent John D'Alton, Esq., of 48. Sum- 

 mer Hill, Dublin, could, doubtless, assist Y. S. M. 



g: L. S. 



The Title of Clarence (Vol. ix., p. 224.). — See 

 an elaborate paper upon this subject by the Rev. 

 Dr. Donaldson, published in the first Number of 

 Proceedings of the Bury and West Suffolk ArchcBO' 

 logical Institute. Vokaeos. 



"■The Birch : a Poem" (Vol. vii., p. 159.). — I 

 possess a copy of the above poem, quoted at length 

 by Balliolensis, which contains several couplets 

 not given in his copy. I found the lines ia 

 Adams's Weekly Chester Cournnt of Tuesday, 

 July 25, 1786 ; and as the Grammar School of 

 this city was at that time in the very zenith of its 

 glory, I think it highly probable that the lines in 

 question were the production of one or other of 

 the scholars. If Balliolensis wishes to complete 

 his MS. copy, and will communicate personally 

 with me, I shall be happy to transcribe for him 

 such of the lines as appear to be missing in his own 

 MS. edition. T. Hughes. 



Chester. 



Henry Garnett (Vol. x., p. 18.). — Is it clear 

 that this Jesuit Father had two christian names ? 

 I can find no evidence to that effect in any ac- 

 counts of his life, and am therefore inclined to 

 think that the first word of the inscription under- 

 neath his portrait at Rome was Pater, not Peter; 

 as it is very unlikely that an English name should 

 have found place in a Latin inscription. More- 

 over, if he had taken a second name at his con- 

 firmation, it would have come after his baptismal 

 name, Henry. What Fuevus means by his cano- 

 nisation I cannot imagine, as he has never been 

 thus honoured. Still I cannot approve of his 

 being styled " the conspirator," as impartial his- 

 tory acquits him on that head. It is not easy to 



[* The earliest Armv List at Messrs. Parker, Furnivall* 

 and Parker's, is dated March 20, 1739-40.— Ed.] 



