Dec. 16. 1854.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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tions on the Romish controversy in the reign of 

 James II. give me any information respecting the 

 pamphlet referred to in the following title of an 

 anonymous tract, generally believed to be written 

 by the Rev. John Patrick, preacher at the Charter- 

 house : 



" Transubstantiation no Doctrine of the Primitive 

 Fathers : being a Defence of the Dublin Ijetter herein, 

 against the Papist Misrepresented and Represented, 

 Part II. cap. 3.: Lond. 1687." 



By comparing this tract with that to which it 

 is a reply, it appears evident that the Dublin 

 Letter is identical with a pamphlet referred to 

 in the Papist Misrepresented and Represented, 

 under the title of The Papist Doctrine of Tran- 

 substantiation not agreeable to the Primitive Fathers ; 

 but I have never seen the pamphlet itself, nor can 

 I find it under either title in any of the various 

 lists of the pamphlets on the subject of the con- 

 troversy to which it relates. Archbishop Wake, 

 in his Continuation of the present State of the Con- 

 troversy, p. 22., refers to " the author of the 

 Dublin Letter^^ as the reviver of the controversy 

 on Transubstantiation ; but he does not give the 

 title of the pamphlet, nor afford any clue to the 

 reason why it came to be called the Dublin 

 Letter. 'A\iiis. 



Dublin. 



P. Abelard. — In yl Sketch of the Rise and Pro- 

 gress of Christianity, by R. W. Mackay, M.A., 

 London, 1854, is the following anecdote : 



" It is related, that the prelates assembled at tlie Council 

 of Sens, which condemned Abelard, went to sleep, one 

 and all, over their cups after dinner, during the reading 

 of the offensive volume. Upon the occurrence of an ob- 

 jectionable passage, the reader interrogated the somnolent 

 judges 'Damnatis?' to which a drowsy voice answered, 

 ' Damnamus : ' and the remainder, aroused by the noise, 

 responded in half articulate but appropriate chorus, 

 ' namus,' i. e. ' wc swim ' (in debauchery) ; and thus, 

 the man who night and day exercised himself in the law 

 of the Lord, was condemned by the satellites of Bacchus ? " 



The author is not generally sparing of refer- 

 ences, but he gives none for this story. When 

 such is thought of sufficient importance to be 

 inserted in a grave theological and philosophical 

 work, we ought to know by whom, and when it 

 was said. Can any of your readers tell me ? 



II. B. C. 



U. U. Club. 



Seals, Books relating to. — As I am collecting 

 impressions of seals, I should like to know- of any 

 work relating exclusively to and containing en- 

 gravings of seals ; also, whether there is any work 

 which contains engravings of the common seals of 

 the London City Livery Companies. 



Adeian Adninan. 



Flemings in England. — M. D. is desirous to 

 know at what periods the Flemings have come 



over to England? in what county they located 

 themselves ? and would be thankful to be informed 

 of a few Flemish surnames ; and whether the fol- 

 lowing names may be considered to have such an 

 origin : Savile, Bosvile, Nevile, Longvilliers, Beau- 

 mont, St. Quentin, Kearrsford, Kerresford, and 

 some others terminating in hurst or hyrst, which 

 probably is Flemish rather than Saxon or Danish ? 

 Lincoln. 



James II.'s Writings. — In rather an interest- 

 ing book, entitled — 



" The Memoirs of King James II., containing an Ac- 

 count of the Transactions of the Last Twelve Years of 

 his Life, with the Circumstances of his Death (translated 

 from the French Original). Printed by D. Edwards, 

 and sold by the Booksellers of London and Westminster, 

 1702, price Is., pp. 83, 18mo." 



it is stated at p. 80. : 



" We {the Sisters of the Community of the. Visitation of 

 St. Mary, praised be God, /row our Monastery of Chaillot, 

 the Ist of July, 1702) cannot end tfiis letter without 

 giving your charities hopes that in time you .shall see many 

 writings of devotion by the late King, which the Queen 

 has collected and made search for in several places, and 

 given orders to have them translated into our language. 

 Her Majesty has done us the honour to let us see some of 

 them, and we assure you that the reading of them re- 

 animated the spirit of for^'our and devotion in our com- 

 munity. We compare them to the works of saints for 

 the unction they are full of." 



Query, Were the "writings" referred to above 

 ever published ? and if so, under what title, &c. ? 



G.N. 



Tallies. — To what extent are these used now ? 

 They are still to be seen in use in the bakers' 

 shops at Boulogne. I remember them in ordi- 

 nary use by the bakers at Stroud, in Gloucester- 

 shire. In Cornwall I have often seen a complainant, 

 in an application for wages, produce his account 

 on a notched stick ; or, as it is there always called, 

 a " wand." S. R. P. 



Sir Edward Grymes, Baronet. — Can any of the 

 numerous correspondents of "N. & Q." inform 

 me to what family this gentleman belonged ? He 

 was appointed surgeon to the 51st regiment, on 

 August 16, 1770, and that corps having been sent to 

 Minorca, in 1771, Sir Edward Grymes was trans- 

 ferred from it to the local medical staff, as sur- 

 geon's mate at Fort St. Philip, Minorca, Deo. 10, 

 1776. He must have had strong reasons for 

 seeking this appointment, as the emolument de- 

 rivable therefrom only amounted to 63/. lis. 6d. 

 per annum ; while the pay of a regimental surgeon 

 was then about five shillings a day, or 911. 5s. per 

 annum. The island of Minorca having fallen into 

 the bands of the Spaniards, February 5, 1782, Sir 

 Edward Grymes's connexion with the island 

 ceased; and I have been unable to trace him from 

 that date, as his name is omitted in the Army List 



