July 31. 1852.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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in 1662, nor of the governor of St. Martin's, who 

 is alleged to have "reduced to slavery the creAv 

 and passengers of an English ship." From the 

 character of the inhabitants of the latter island 

 (at that period little better than a handful of free- 

 booters), and their avowed hostility to the British, 

 such a circumstance is barely jiossible; but no 

 account of it occurs in any history of these islands 

 that I have had an opportunity of consulting. 



Heury H. Beeen. 

 St. Lucia. 



Reverence to the Altai- (Vol. vi., p. 33.). — The 

 country folks in this part of Pembrokeshire bow 

 to the clergyman as they go to their seats from 

 the aisle, in the same way as those in Huntingdon- 

 shire. R. J- A. 



DocMng Horses' Tails (Vol. vi., p. 43.). — The 

 practice of docking the tails of horses is of an 

 earlier date than F. B — w supposes, as the follow- 

 ing extract from Markham's Masterpiece, tenth 

 edition, 1668, will show : 



" Of the making of Curtals, or cutting off of the Tails of 

 Horses. 

 " The curtailing of horses is used in no nation what- 

 soever, so much as in this kingdom of ours, by reason 

 of much carriage, and heavy burthens which our horses 

 continually are exercised and imployed withall ; and 

 the rather, sith, we are strongly opinionated, that the 

 taking away of those joynts doih make the horses chine 

 or back a great deal stronger, and more able to sup- 

 port a burthen, as in truth it doth ; and we daily find 

 it by continual experience." — P. 539. 



Edward Peacock, Jan. 

 Bottesford Moors, Messingham, 

 Kirlon Lindsey. 



Apple-pie Order (Vol. iii., pp. 330. 468. 485.).— 

 There is a children's story beginning, "A was an 

 apple-pie ; B bit it ; C cut it ; D divided it ; F 

 fought for it ; G got it ; H had it," &c., to the end 

 of the alphabet. Some years since I met with the 

 assertion that this was the origin of the expression 

 " apple-pie order," reference being had to the 

 regular order in which the letters follow each 

 other. Uneda. 



Philadelphia, Pa., June 15, 1852. 



Seth's Pillars (Vol. v., p. 609.). — In reply to 

 the Query of Anon., I beg to inform him that this 

 is a well-known oriental tradition, noticed by many 

 writers. I may, in the first instance, refer him to 

 Josephus's Jewish Antiq., bk. i. ch. ii. 3. 



Mention is also made of these pillars in some of 

 the extracts from oriental writers contained in the 

 appendix to the second volume of Colonel Vyse's 

 valuable work on the Pyramids of Egypt. 



In two ancient MSS. in the British Museum 

 (Lansd. 98. No. 48., and Harl. 1942.), purport- 

 ing to be a history of The Beginning and Found- 

 ation of the worthy Craft of Masonry, an account 



of the legend connected with these pillars will be 

 found. 



I possess a copy of the latter of these documents, 

 written in a hand of the last century, but refrain 

 from trespassing upon your valuable space with any 

 lengthy extracts. It may be sufficient to state that 

 the erection of the pillars (which Josephus attri- 

 butes to the children of Seth) is here ascribed to 

 the four children of Lamech, viz. Jabal, Jubal, 

 Tubal-Cain, and Naaniah. It then proceeds : 



" These children knew well that God would take 

 vengeance for sin, either by fire or water ; wherefore 

 they wrote their sciences that they had found out on 

 two pillars, that they might be found after Noah's 

 flood. 



" One of the pillars was marble, which will not burn 

 with any fire, and the other pillar or stone was called 

 Laternes [in the other MS. Latres'], which will not 

 drown in any water." 



The discovery of one of the pillars by Hermes 

 Trismegistus after the Deluge is then narrated, 

 together with an account of his supposed inventions. 



Your correspondent will also find the contents of 

 this IMS. noticed in the preface to Mr. Halliwell's 

 curious work on The Early History of Freemasonry 

 in England. 



Allow me to conclude with a Query. — What is 

 the meaning and derivation of the word lat7-es or 

 laternes, of which material one of the pillars is said 

 to have been formed ? Leicestriensis. 



Paget Family (Vol. iv., p. 133.; Vol. v. pp. 66. 

 280. 327. 381.). — The following extract from Harl. 

 MSS., 1476, p. 178., may be interesting to your 

 correspondents Cr an more and Edward Foss : — 



" Godfrye Maydwell 

 of l.oiido., 3 son, 

 liuing &o 1634. 



Anne, d. of Jtmes 

 Paget, one of the 

 IJarons of the 

 Kxclicq. 



Katherine. Anne Mary. 



The above is " Under the hand of W". Camden, 

 Clar. King of Armes." Tee Bee. 



Dictionnaire Bibliographique (Vol. vi., p. 35.). — 

 The authorship of the Dictionnaire Bibliographique y 

 ou Nouveau Manuel du Lihraire et de V Amateur de 

 Livres, par M. P * * * * *., printed at Paris in 

 1824, is assigned by Brnnet (in his Manuel du 

 Lihraire, torn. v. p. 686., Paris, 1844) to M. 

 Psaume. Tyro. 



Dublin. 



Blindmans Holiday (Vol. v., p. 587.). — Has 

 not Dr. Pegge made a mountain of a molehill ? At 

 " the hour when one can no longer see" every one 

 is pro temp, a blind man, and keeps holiday 

 accordingly. A. A. D 



" De Laudihus Sancta Crucis " (Vol. vi., pp. 9. 

 61.). — P. B. is correct in his answer to Hugo con- 

 cerning this work, but seems not to be acquainted 



