Oct. 30. 1852.] 



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English Church to be celebrated or kept holy, ex- 

 cept those for which a special collect, epistle, and 

 gospel is provided. W. H. G. 



Rumoured discovery in CoU (Vol. vi., p. 221.). — 

 There is little doubt that this was a hoax, which 

 was first published more than twenty years ago 

 in some Edinburgh paper or magazine. 



W. C. Treveltan. 



Whipping of Women at Worcester (Vol. vi., 

 pp.174. 281. 327.). — Men and women were 

 whipped promiscuously at Worcester till the close 

 of the last century, as may be seen by the cor- 

 poration records. Male and female "rogues" 

 were whipped at a charge of Ad. each for the 

 whip's-man. In 1680 there is a charge of Ad. 

 "for whipping a wench;" in 1742, Is. "for 

 whipping John Williams, and exposing Joyce 

 Powell." In 1759, " for whipping Eliz. Bradbury, 

 2s. 6^.," probably including the cost of tiie hire 

 of the cart, which was usually charged \s. Qd. 

 separately. J. Noake. 



Worcester. 



Colonial Newspapers (Vol. vi., p. 149.). — D. X. 

 asks for the date of the first West Indian news- 

 paper. I have j ust found the following paragraph 

 in the Dominica Colonist of June 9, 1852 : 



" The Barhadoes Mercury has ceased to exist. This 

 was the oldest journal, we believe, in the West Indies : 

 it was established in 1733, and consequently had a run 

 of 11 9 years." 



A. A. 



Abridge. 



Earl of Winnal (Vol. vi., p. 314.). — F. L. is 

 referred to an interesting paper by Mr. Planche 

 on the monument in Winchester Cathedral, on 

 which he seeks information, in the Journal of the 

 Archceological Association, vol. i. p. 2 1 6. Probably 

 he did not see the stone, once a part of this mo- 

 nument, but now attached to the eastern wall of 

 the church in the Portland Chapel, on which the 

 illustrious achievements of this unknown knight 

 are displayed on a series of shields. W. H. G. 



Rohert Stanser, second Bishop of Nova Scotia 

 (Vol. vi., p. 149.). — He obtained the degree of 

 LL.B. from St. John's College, Cambridge, in 

 1789. He died at Hampton, Jan. 23, 1829, aged 

 sixty-eight. See Gentleman's Magazine, vol. xcix. 

 part i. p. 272., for a short memorial of him. 



Tyro. 

 Dublin. 



_ " Caiidam deme volat" (Vol. vi., p. 316.). — The 

 lines "Caudam deme volat," &c., appeared in a 

 miniature monthly periodical concocted by the 

 boys of the Preston Grammar School, and called 

 The Scholar. They were put into my hands as 



original, and I have never had any reason to suspect 

 them of being a plagiarism. 



I send you herewith the number of that bril- 

 liant, but, alas ! extinct publication, which con- 

 tains the lines (p. 5.). The Quondam Editoe. 



Bibere Papaliter (Vol. vi., p. 316.). — The mi- 

 nisters of religion in every country and age have 

 been popularly accounted bon-vivants. Horace, 

 for example, sings : 



" Absumet hasres Ca3cuba dignior 

 Servata centum clavibus ; et mere 

 Tinget pavimentum superbo 



Pontificum potiore coenis." — Carm. ii. xiv. 



And our own bishops are currently supposed to be 

 at least as fat as aldermen. A. A. D. 



Dutensiana (Vol. vi., p. 292.). — A short notice 

 of Dutens will be found in Hodgson's History of 

 Northumberlajid, Part II. vol. i. p. 89. Mr. Dutens 

 held the rectory of Elsden in that county, 1765 — 

 1812. W. C. Trevelyan. 



Possession is nine Points of the Law (Vol. iv., 

 p. 23.). — It is said that nine things are requisite to 

 the man that goes to law : 1 . A good deal of 

 money. 2. A good deal of patience. 3. A good 

 cause. 4. A good attorney. 5. Good counsel. 

 6. Good evidence. 7. A good jury. 8. A good 

 judge. 9. Good luck. 



Has this any connexion with the saying : " Pos- 

 session is nine points of the law ? " 



Henrt H. Breen. 



St. Lucia. 



Memoires dune Contempoi'aine (Vol. vi., p. 75.), 

 — The authoress of this work was a German lady 

 named Elzelina Van Aylde Jonche. She married 

 Count Saint-Elme or Saint-Edme ; became cele- 

 brated as a courtesan, by the name of Ida Saint- 

 Elme; was employed by Napoleon as a spy, and 

 died at Bruxelles, where she was buried as Ida 

 Versfelt. Besides the well-known Memoires, she 

 was the authoress of several works on cotem- 

 porary personages and events. (See Querard's 

 Supercheries Litteraires, vol. i. p. 276.) 



Henry H. Breen^ 



St. Lucia. 



Was William Penn ever a Slaveholder ? (Vol. vi., 

 p. 160.). — Yes, he was. James Logan, his secre- 

 tary, in a letter written to Penn's widow, dated 

 1 1th of 3rd Month (May), 1721, tells her that Penn 

 left a will with him, manumitting all his negroes. 

 Logan mentions Sam, James, Chevalier, and Sue : 

 the last named, he says, was claimed by Penn's 

 daughter Laetitia as her own property. — (See Jan- 

 ney's Life of Penn, p. 424. : Philadelphia, 1852.) 



Uneda. 



Philadelphia. 



