2nd s. V. 121., April 24. '68.] 



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sia, or rather for those state occasions upon which 

 our own is used. The words begin " Hell dir im 

 Siegerkranz," and not as quoted by your corre- 

 spondent, who states having heard it at Innspruch, 

 where, I should imagine, it would have been less 

 in place than the Austrian National Anthem, 

 " Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser." Due credit has 

 always, I fancy, been given to its English source, 

 and no attempt made to lay claim to the tune. 



D. 



Madeleine de Scudery (2°'^ S. v. 274.) — Permit 

 me to inform your correspondent, R. H. S., that 

 he will find a critical appreciation of Mile, de 

 Scudery's writings in Sainte-Beuve's Causeries du 

 Lundi, torn. iv. (Paris, 1853) ; and some addi- 

 tional remarks by the same author relating to 

 MUe. de S. are scattered throughout other vo- 

 lumes of the Causeries. See also Mr. Hallam's 

 introduction to the Literature of Europe, vol. iii. 

 pp. 161—164. (3rd edit. Lond., 1847). M. Cou- 

 sin has announced that he will shortly publish, in 

 2 vols. 8vo., a work with the following title : — 

 " La Societe Frangaise ^u XVIP Siecie, d'apres 

 le Grand Cyrus, Roman de Mile, de Scudery." M. 

 Cousin communicated to the Revue des Deux 

 Mondes in the No. for Fevrier 15, 1858, an article 

 on the historical importance of Mile. Scudery's 

 romance of the Orand Cyrus. J. Macray. 



Oxford. 



"He is a Wise ChiU^' ^c. (2"^ S. v. 168.) — 

 Your request (2°'' S. v. 1 80.) to quote the pre- 

 cise edition, as well as the volume and page, 

 would. If followed, save much trouble. For ex- 

 ample, V. 168. three quotations are given, and no 

 better direction for finding them than " Euri- 

 pides," " Menander " and " Aristotle in his Rhe- 

 toric." Riccius (Dissertationes Homericce. p. 368., 

 Lipsiae), who takes the same view as Mr. Car- 

 BiNGTON, gives, 



" 'H fiiv yap avr^s olStv vlhv SS* oierai," 



to Menander. I shall be glad of a more precise 

 reference ; for though the fragments of Menander 

 may be run over in a short time, it is not so with 

 Euripides or Aristotle's Rhetoric. What the con- 

 text of the latter quotation may be, I do not 

 know ; but, so far as I understand, it goes no 

 farther than that women are the best judges of 

 children. L. M. 



Stains on Engravings (2"'^ S. v. 236.) — I have 

 found the following plan for removing stains 

 similar to those complained of by Sigma answer 

 admirably : — 



Place the engraving to be cleaned on a smooth 

 board, damp it slightly in order to ensure its lying 

 flat, then cover it evenly all over with finely pow- 

 dered common salt, say to the thickness of an 

 eighth of an inch. On this pour lemon juice, 

 until the whole surface is equally saturated ; al- 



low the whole to remain in this state for half an 

 hour. Then, tilting the board at an angle of 45°, 

 carefully wash off the salt by pouring boiling 

 water (from the spout of a kettlQ is best) over it, 

 allowing the water to run over the whole surface 

 from the highest point of the board to the lowest. 

 When completely washed, dry gradually, not in 

 the sun or by the fire. R. W. Hackwood. 



I believe no process exists for removing damp- 

 stains from engravings. Ordinary stains may, 

 however, be taken out, without injury to the 

 prints, by soaking them in water impregnated 

 with chlorine gas. R. B. P. 



Simvel Cakes (2^^ S. v. 234.) — I cannot give 

 any information as to which of the towns men- 

 tioned by A Lover of Ancient Customs had the 

 honour of introducing the Simnel ; indeed, I was 

 not aware that the claim of Shrewsbury was dis- 

 puted. My object is merely to furnish to " N. & 

 Q." the tradition of its origin which was current 

 among Shropshire school-boys a k'W years back. 

 It was to the following effect : — 



" A happy couple, having a domestic dispute as to 

 whether a pie or pudding, should form part of their day's 

 dinner, wisely determined to compromise the matter by 

 first boiling and afterwards baking their piece of confec- 

 tioner}'. This double act of cookery produced the Shrews- 

 bury Simnel ; and the cake received its cognomen from 

 the names of the couple whose tastes and differences 

 caused its discovery, and who respectively bore the names 

 of Simon and Nell." 



Whether the Simnel Is really manufactured ac- 

 cording to this recipe, I must leave for others to 

 say ; but the story cannot apply to the Devizes 

 kind, which, from the description of your corre- 

 spondent, is without the hard saffron crust. 



I may as well mention that it was the custom 

 on Shrove Tuesday to place a mark (tradition 

 says this mark was formerly a live cock, but 

 school-boys were more humane In my day,) at 

 which the boys threw a stick ; each one hitting the 

 mark was rewarded by a bite at a large Simnel 

 provided by general subscription among them- 

 selves. Haughmond. 



A Lover of Ancient Customs quite ignores 

 Bury in Lancashire, almost world-famous for Its 

 simnels and braggat (spiced leggedale), on Mo- 

 thering Sunday or Mid-Lent. I should think 

 neither Devizes nor Shrewsbury can compete 

 with the tens of thousands who frequent Bury 

 on the aforesaid anniversary. R. L. 



Sir John Temple (2°'' S. v. 274.) — I can answer 

 the first part only of B. W. P.'s Query. Sir 

 John Temple, Master of the Rolls in Ireland 

 under the two Charleses and the Commonwealth, 

 and ancestor of the Viscounts Palmerston, died 

 on November 14th, 1677. He was succeeded In 

 his office by his son William (Bart.), at that time 



