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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 167. 



and died 1425. The Countess of Westmoreland 

 died 13 th November, 1440. 



As regards the Queen's descent from John, Duke 

 of Lancaster, in the strictly legitimate line, I may 

 wish to say a word at another time. Allow me now, 

 with reference to the same pedigree, to append a 

 Query to this Reply : Can any of your learned ge- 

 nealogical readers direct me to the authority which 

 may have induced Miss A. Strickland, in her amus- 

 ing Memoirs of the Lives of the English Queens., to 

 give so strenuous a denial of Henry VIII.'s queen, 

 Jane Seymour's claim to a royal lineage ? Miss 

 Strickland writes : 



"Through Margaret Wentworth, the mother of Jane 

 Seymour, a descent from the blood-royal of England 

 was claimed, from an intermarriage with a Wentworth 

 and a daughter of Hotspur and Lady Elizabeth Mor- 

 timer, grand-daughter to Lionel, duke of Clarence. 



the appurtenances, shall be found lawfully to be of 

 greater and better yearly value than the said 40 marks 

 a-year, then our said son and daughter shall answer to 

 us, during such peace as aforesaid, for the surplusage of 

 the value of the said manor, beyond the said 40 marks 

 a^year, and the yearly reprises of the said manor. And 

 in full satisfaction of the aforesaid 500 marks a-year 

 we have granted to our abovesaid son and daughter 

 206/. 13s. Ad. yearly, to be received out of the issues 

 of our honours of Pontefract and Pickering, by the 

 hands of our receiver there for the time being. In 

 witness whereof we have caused these our letters to be 

 made patent. Given under our seal, at London, on the 

 16th day of February, in the twentieth year of the reign 

 of our most dread sovereign lord King Richard the 

 Second after the Conquest" (a.d. 1397). 



The above grant was confirmed on the 1 0th of Sep- 

 tember, in the twenty-second of Richard the Second, 

 1398, by the eldest son of John of Gaunt, Henry of 

 Lancaster, Duke of Hereford, a (evf weeks only before 

 the duke's banishment, in the following words: " We, 

 willing to perform and accomplish the good will and 

 desires of our said very honoured lord and father, and 

 in the confidence which we have in our said very loved 

 brother, nowEarl of Westmoreland, that he will be a good 

 and natural son to our said very dread lord and father, 

 and that he will be to us in time to come a good and 

 natural brother, and also because of the great affection 

 which we bear towards our said very loved sister, the 

 countess his wife (sa compaigne), do, for us and our 

 heirs, as far as in us lies, ratify and confirm to our 

 said brother and sister the aforesaid letters patent, &c. 

 Given under our seal, at London, on the 10th day of 

 September, in the twenty-second year of the reign of 

 our most dread lord King Richard the Second after 

 the Conquest." 



King Henry the Fifth, on his accession, by a patent 

 under the seal of the duchy of Lancaster, dated at 

 Westminster, on the 1st of July, in the first year of his 

 reign, confirmed the above letters "to the aforesaid 

 earl and Joan his wife ; " and King Henry the Sixth in 

 like manner confirmed his father's patent on the 13th 

 of Julv, in the second year of his reign. — Repiat Ducat. 

 Lane. temp. Men. VI., p. 2. fol. 41. 



This Lady Percy is stated by all ancient heralds to 

 have died childless. Few persons, however, dared dis- 

 pute a pedigree with Henry VIII.," &c. — Lives of 

 the Queens of England, by Agnes Strickland, vol. iv. 

 p. 300. 



This is a question, I conceive, of sufficient his- 

 torical Importance to receive a fuller investigation, 

 and fairly to be determined, if possible. 



The pedigree shows the following descent : — 

 Lionel Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, third son 

 of King Edward III. and Philippa of Hainault, 

 left by Elizabeth de Burgh (daughter of William 

 de Burgh, Earl of Ulster, and Maud Plantagenet, 

 second daughter of Henry, third Earl of Lan- 

 caster) an only child, Philippa, married to Ed- 

 mund Mortimer, third Earl of March {Esc, 

 5 Kic. II., No. 43.). The eldest daughter of Phi- 

 lippa Plantagenet by the Earl of March was 

 Elizabeth Mortimer, who married the renowned 

 Hotspur, Henry Lord Percy, son and heir ap- 

 parent of Henry Lord Percy, created Earl of 

 Northumberland, 16th July, 1377, K. G. Hot- 

 spur was slain at the battle of Shrewsbury, 7th 

 September, 1403, v. p. His widow experienced the 

 revengeful persecution of King Henry (Rymer, 

 viii. 334., Oct. 8, 1403), and died, leaving by her 

 said husband one son, Henry, who became second 

 Earl of Northumberland, and an only daughter, 

 Elizabeth de Percy, who married firstly, John, 

 seventh Lord Clifford of Westmoreland, who died 

 13th March, 1422 (Esc, 10 Henry V., No. 37.), 

 and secondly, Ralph Neville, second Earl of West- 

 moreland (Esc, 15 Hen. VI., No. 55.), by whom 

 she left an only child. Sir John Neville, Knight, 

 who died during his father's lifetime, 20th March, 

 1451, 5. p. (Will proved 30th March, 1451.) Lady 

 Elizabeth de Percy, who died in October, 1436, 

 left by her first husband, the Lord Clifford, three 

 children : Thomas, eighth Lord Clifford ; Henry, 

 her second son ; and an only daughter, Mary, who 

 became the wife of Sir Philip Wentworth, Knight. 

 The Lady Mary Clifford, who must have been 

 born before 1422 (her father having died in that 

 year), was probably only a few years older than 

 her husband Sir Philip, the issue of a marriage 

 which took place in June, 1 Henry VI., 1423 

 (Cott. MSS. Cleop., F. iv. f. 15.) ; she was burled 

 in the church of the Friars Minor at Ipswich, 

 where her mother-in-law directed a marble to be 

 laid over her body. Sir Philip's father, Roger 

 Wentworth, Esq. (second son of John Wentworth 

 of North Elmsal, a scion of the house of Went- 

 worth of the North), had married in 1423 Margery 

 Lady de Roos, widow of John Lord de Roos, sole 

 daughter and heiress of Elizabeth de Tibetot, or 

 Tiptoft (third daughter and co-heir of Robert, 

 Lord de Tibetot), and of Sir Philip le Despenser 

 Chlvaler (Esc, 18 Edw. IV., No. 35.). By this 

 marriage came, first, Sir Philip Wentworth, Knight, 

 born circa 1424, and married when about twenty- 



