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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 173. 



inside, on the bottom of the box, and are supposed 

 to be a saying of Cardinal Mazarin. Can any of 

 your correspondents give any account of them, 

 and where they are to be found ? They are as 

 follow, verbatim et literatim, punctuation included : 



" Time and I, to any Two 

 Chance & I to time and you 

 1750" 



B. Bl^AKISTON. 

 Ashington Rectory, Sussex. 



Rosa Mystica. — Where is information to be 

 found on the subject of the Rosa Mystica ; and 

 what is the date of its institution ? D. S. A. 



Old- Shoe throwing at Weddings. — Can any of 

 your readers inform me what is the origin of the 

 custom of throwing an old shoe over the bride and 

 bridegroom upon their leaving the church, or the 

 *' maison paternelle " after their wedding ? 



This ceremony, though peculiar as I believe to 

 Scotland and our northern counties, has lately 

 been adopted at our aristocratic marriages in 

 London, and more should be known of its history. 



Bbatbbooke. 



Herbs s " Costumes Franqais." — The valuable 

 work by M. Herbe, Costumes Frangais; Civiles, 

 Militaires et Religieux, 4to. Paris, is doubtless well 

 known to your readers. 



I have heard that after Its publication sundry 

 persons, judging perhaps from the eccentricity of 

 many of the costumes, doubted their accuracy, and 

 even considered them the result of M. Herbe's 

 fancy; and that that gentleman, annoyed at the 

 imputation, subsequently published another work 

 citing his authorities. 



Query, Can any one verify this statement ? and 

 if true, inform me of the title of this latter work; 

 and whether it is to be found in any library in this 

 country, and where ? Pictoe. 



Minat <!B.uttitS biii^ ^nSiott^. 



Humphry Smith (Vol. vil., p. 80.). — Having 

 heard of a work of his, giving an account of the 

 persecution in his time, will you or one of your 

 contributors be so good as furnish a list of the titles 

 of his works ; with a note naming where they may 

 be met with for inspection ? Glywtsig. 



[The first two in the following list of the works of 

 Humphry Smith, the Quaker, are in the British Mu- 

 seum; the remainder are in the Bodleian; 1. A Sad 

 and Mournful Lamentation for the People of these 

 Nations, but especially for the Priests and Leaders of 

 them, 4to. 1660. 2. Meditations of an Humble 

 Heart, 4to. 3. Something further laid open of the 

 Cruel Persecution of the People called Quakers, by 

 the Magistrates and People of Evesham, 4to. 1656. 

 4. For the Honour of the King, and the great ad- 



vancing thereof (amongst men) over all nations in the 

 world, in some proposals tending thereunto ; stated in 

 six particulars, 4to. 1661. 5. Sound Things Asserted 

 in the King's own words, from late experience, from 

 Scripture truth, and according to reason and equity, 

 offered in meekness and goodwill unto the consideration 

 of all Kings, Lords, Counsellors, &c., 4to. 1662. 

 6. Something in Reply to Edmund Skipp's book, 

 which he calles " The World's Wonder, or the Quaker's 

 Blazing Starre," at the end of an Answer to Edmund 

 Skipp's book by R. F. Watt, in his Bibliotheca, has 

 confounded Smith the Quaker with Humphry Smith, 

 Vicar of Tounstal and St. Saviour's, Dartmouth.] 



Meaning and Etymology of " Conyngers" or 

 " Connigries." — In the preamble to the statute 

 13 Rich. IT. c. 13., entitled " None shall hunt but 

 they which have a sufficient living," this word 

 occurs ; and I am totally at a loss as to Its mean- 

 ing. The passage Is — 



" Vont chaceants es parkes, garennes et conyngers 

 des seignurs et autres ; " 



which. In Pickering's edition of the Statutes at 

 Large, is translated : 



" They go hunting in parks, warrens, and connigries 

 of lords and others." 



Would any reader of "N. & Q." kindly en- 

 lighten me on the subject ? A. W. 

 Kilburn, 



[Blount explains Coningeria as a coney-borough, or 

 warren of conies. " Item dicunt, quod idem Dominus 

 potest capere in duabus coningeriis, quas habet infra 

 Insulam de Vecta, 100 cuniculos per annum, et valet 

 quilibet cuniculos 2d." Inq. de anno 47 Hen. III., 

 n. 32.] 



Letters U, V, W, and St. Ives (Vol. vil., p. 39.). 

 — Is St. Ives by any possibility connected with 

 St. Jue's, St. Jew's, or St. Jude's ? Jve's and 

 lue's must have been undistlnguishable In the 

 ancient confusion of J and I, V and U. If I am 

 here displaying ignorance, I ask, What Is the 

 legend of St. Ives ? W. Frasee. 



Tor-Mohun. 



[St. Ives is named from la, who was one of the mis- 

 sionary band that accompanied St. Kiaran, alias Piran, 

 from Ireland in the fifth century. The Cornish have 

 consecrated almost all their towns to the memory 

 of these Irish saints : " witness," says Camden, " St, 

 Burian, St. Ives, St. Columb, St. Mewan, St. Erben, St. 

 Eval, St. Wenn, and St. Enedor." It appears that these 

 missionaries landed in Cornwall at Pendinas, hill-head, 

 now called St. Ives ; for in the Legend of St. Ives, con- 

 tained in Nova Legenda Anglia, we read that " Tewdor 

 was king at that time, and had a palace at Pendinas ; 

 and that Dinan, a greate lord of Cornwall, at the re- 

 quest of St, la, built a church at the same place." 

 See Butler's Lives, March 5th ; and Haslam's Perran- 

 zabuloe, p. SB."} 



