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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 180. 



a very proper one, if not declined on your own 

 part, and shall, for one, feel great pleasure in act- 

 ing in accordance with it. 



You will, I trust, pardon my foregoing hints for 

 beginners, as I well know that I have lost several 

 pictures by hypo-crystals, and very many by the 

 difficulty in developing. L. Merkitt. 



Maidstone. 



P.S. — I always find collodion by Dr. Diamonb's 

 formula capital, and with it from five to ten seconds 

 is time enough. 



Mr. Weld Taylor's cheap Iodizing Process. — 

 I have no doubt Mr. Weld Taylor will be kind 

 enough to explain to me two difficulties I find in 

 his cheap iodizing process for paper. 



In the first place, whence arises the caustic con- 

 dition of his solution, unless it be through the 

 decomposition of the cyanide of potassium which 

 is sometimes added ? and if such caustic condition 

 exists, does it not cause a deposition of oxide of 

 silver together with the iodide, thereby embrown- 

 ing the paper ? 



Why does the caustic condition of the solution 

 require a larger dose of nitrate of silver, and does 

 not this larger quantity of nitrate of silver more 

 than outbalance the difference between the new 

 process and the old, as regards price? I jiay Is. ^d. 

 for an ounce of iodide of potassium of purest 

 quality ; the commoner commercial quality is 

 cheaper. F. Maxwell Lyte. 



Somersetshire Ballad (Vol. vii., p. 236.). — 

 " Go vlnd the vicar of Taunton Deane," &c. 

 S. A. S. will find the above in The Aviary, or 

 Magazine of British Melody, a square volume 

 published about the middle of last century ; or in a 

 volume bearing the running title — A Collection of 

 diverting Songs, Airs, Sfc, of about the same period 

 — both extensive depots of old song ; the first con- 

 taining 1344, and the last, as far as my mutilated 

 copy goes, extending to nearly 500 pages quarto. 



J. O. 



Family of De Thurnham (Vol. vii., p. 261.). — 

 In reply to 0. I send a few notes illustrative of 

 the pedigree, &c. of the De Thurnhams, lords of 

 Thurnham, in Kent, deduced from Dugdale, pub- 

 lic records, and MS. charters in my possession, 

 namely, the MS. Rolls of Combwell Priory, which 

 was founded by Robert de Thurnham the elder ; 

 from which it appears that Robert de Thurnham, 

 who lived tempore Hen. II., had two sons, Robert 

 and Stephen. Of these, Robert married Joan, 

 daughter of William Fossard, and died 13 John, 

 leaving a daughter and sole heir Isabel, for whose 

 marriage Peter de Maulay had to pay 7000 marks, 

 which were allowed him in his accounts for services 



rendered to the crown. Stephen, the other son^ 

 married Edellna, daughter of Ralph de Broc, and, 

 dying circiter 16 John, was burled in Waverley 

 Abbey, Surrey. He seems to have left five 

 daughters and coheirs ; viz. Mabilia, wife of llalpk 

 de Gatton, and afterwards of Thomas de Bavelinge- 

 ham ; Alice, wife of Adam de Bending ; Allanoro, 

 wife of Roger de Leybourne; Beatrice, wife of 

 Ralph de Fay ; and Alienore, wife of Ralph Fitz- 

 Bernard. Dugdale and the Combwell Rolls speak 

 of only four daughters, making no mention of the 

 wife of Ralph Fitz-Bernard ; but an entry on the 

 Fine Rolls would seem almost necessarily to imply 

 that she was one of the five daughters and co- 

 heiresses. If not a daughter, she was in some loajf 

 coheiress with the daughters ; which Is confirmed 

 by an entry in Testa de Nevill : and, by a charter- 

 temp. Edw.I., I find Roger de North wood, husband 

 of Bona Fitz-Bernard, in possession of the manor 

 of Thurnham, with every appearance of its having 

 been by inheritance of his wife. With this ex- 

 planation, I have ventured to Include Alianore,. 

 wife of Ralph Fitz-Bernard, as among the daugh- 

 ters and coheiresses of Stephen de Thurnham. 

 The issue of all of these marriages, after a few 

 years, terminated in female representatives — 

 among them the great infanta Juliana de Ley- 

 bourne — mingling their blood with the Denes, 

 Towns, Northwoods, Wattons, &c., and other 

 ancient families of Kent. 



I have two beautiful seals of Sir Stephen de 

 Thurnham temp. John, — a knight fully capari- 

 soned on horseback, but not a trace of armorial 

 bearings on his shield; nor, in truth, could we 

 expect to find any such assigned to him at that 

 early period. L. B. L. 



Major- General Lambert (Vol. vii., pp. 237. 269. J. 

 — Lambert did not survive his sentence more than 

 twenty-one years. His trial took place in 1661, 

 and he died during the hard winter of 1 683. 



The last fifteen years of his life were spent on 

 the small fortified island of St. Nicholas, com- 

 monly called Drake's Island, situated in Plymouth 

 Sound, at the entrance to the Hamoaze. 



Lambert's wife and two of his daughters were 

 with him on this island in 1673. (See " N. & Q.,"" 

 Vols. iv. and v.) J. Leweltn Curtis. 



Loggerheads (Vol. v., p. 338. ; and Vol. vii-, 

 pp. 192-3.). — Your correspondent Cambrensis, 

 whose communication on this subject I have read 

 with much interest, will excuse my correcting him 

 in one or two minor points of his narrative. The 

 little wayside inn at Llanverres, rendered famous 

 by the genius of the painter Wilson, is still stand- 

 ing in its original position, on the left-hand of the 

 ro.ad as you pass through that vlllnge to Ruthin. 

 Woodward, who was landlord of the inn at the 

 time Wilson frequented it, survived his friend 



