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NOTES AND QUEKIES. 



[No. 191. 



*' Pille, pile ; that side of the coin which bears the 

 head. Cross or pile, a game." — A Dictionary of 

 the Normmi French Language, by Robert Kelham 

 of Lincoln's Inn : London, 1779, 8vo., p. 183. *. 



OldFogie (Vol.vii., pp. 354. 559.).— J. L., who 

 writes from Edinburgh, denies the Irish origin of 

 this appellation, because he says it was used of the 

 "veteran companies" who garrisoned the castles 

 of Edinburgh and Stirling. My mother, who was 

 born in 1759, often told me that she nevfer had 

 heard any other name for the old men in the 

 Royal Hospital, in the vicinity of which she passed 

 her early days. ' It was therefore a well-known 

 name a century ago in Dublin, and consequently 

 was in use long before ; probably from the build- 

 ing of the hospital in the reign of Charles II. Can 

 J. L. trace the Scotch term as far back as that ? 

 Scotch or Irish, however, I maintain that ray de- 

 rivation is the right one. J. L. says he prefers 

 that of Dr. Jamieson, in his Scottish Dictionary, 

 * who " derives it from Su.-G. Fogde, formerly one 

 who had the charge of a gari'ison." In thus pre- 

 ferring a Scottish authority, J. L. shows himself 

 to be a true Scot ; but he must allow me to ask 

 him, is he acquainted with the Swedish language ? 

 (for that is what is meant by the mysterious 

 Su.-G.) And if so, is he not aware that Fogde 

 is the same as the German Vogt, and signifies 

 governor, judge, steward, &c., never merely a 

 military commandant ; and what on earth has that 

 to do with battered old soldiers ? 



I may as well take this opportunity of replying 

 to another of your Caledonian correspondents, 

 respecting the origin of the word nugget. The 

 Persian derivation is simply ridiculous, as the 

 word was not first used in Australia. I am then 

 perfectly well aware that this term has long been 

 in use in Scotland and the north of Ireland as 

 i. q. lump, as a nugget of bread, of sugar, &c. But 

 an ingot is a lump also : and the derivation is so 

 simple and natural, that in any case I am disposed 

 to regard it as the true one. May not the Yankee 

 term have been made independently of the British 

 one ? Thos. Keightley. 



Another odd Mistake (Vol. vli., p. 405.). — On 

 page 102. of Last Glimpses of Convocation, by 

 A. J. Joyce, 1853, I read of " the defiance thrown 

 out to Henry III. by his barons, Nolumus leges 

 Anglice mutare." I have never read of any such 

 defiance, expressed in any such language, any- 

 where else. W. Fbaseb. 



Tor-Mohun. 



Spontaneous Comhustion (Vol. vii., pp. 286. 440.). 

 — I have somewhere read an account of a dnimk- 

 ard whose body was so saturated with alcohol, that 

 being bled in a fever, and the lamp near him 

 having been overthrown, the blood caught fire, 

 and burst into a blaze : the account added, that he 



was so startled by this occurrence, that on his re- 

 covery he reformed thoroughly, and prolonged his 

 life to a good old age. Where is this story to be 

 found, and is the fact related physically possible ? 

 It seems to bear on the question of spontaneous 

 combustion. W. Fbasee. 



Tor-Mohun. 



Erroneous Forms of Speech (Vol.vii., p. 329.). — 

 E. G. R. will find, on farther inquiry, that he is 

 in the wrong as regards the mode of writing and 

 speaking mangold-vmrzel. The subject was dis- 

 cussed in the Gardeners' Chronicle in 1844. 

 There (p. 204.) your correspondent will find, by 

 authority of " a German," that mangold is field- 

 beet or leaf-beet : and that mangel is a corruption 

 or pretended emendation of the common German 

 appellation, and most probably of English coinage. 

 Such a thing as mangel-wurzel is not known on 

 the Continent; and the best authorities now, in 

 this country, all use mangold-wurzel. M. 



P. S. — Since writing the above, I have seen 

 Mr. Frere's note on the same subject (Vol. vii., 

 p. 463.). The substitution of mangel for the ori- 

 ginal mangold, was probably an attempt to correct 

 some vulgar error in orthography ; or to substitute 

 a word of some significance for one of none. But, 

 as Dr. Lindley has said, " If we adopt a foreign 

 name, we ought to take it as we find it, whatever 

 may be its imperfections." 



JEcclesia Anglicana (Vol. vii., pp. 12. 440. 

 535.).— I gladly set down for G. R. M. the fol- 

 lowing instances of the use of " Ecclesia Galli- 

 cana ;" they are quotations occurring in Richard's 

 Analysis Consilioi-um : he will find many more in 

 the same work as translated by Dalmasus : 



" Ex Gallican(jE Ecclesia: usu, Jubilai Bullae ad 

 Archiepiscopos mittendze sunt, e quorum manibus ad 

 suffra^raneos Episcopos perferuntur." — Monumenta Cleri, 

 torn. ii. p. 228. 



" GalUcaiia Ecclesia a disciplinae remissione, ante 

 quadringentos aut qiiingentos annos inducta, se melius 

 quam aliaj defendit, Romanreque curite ausis vehemen- 

 tius resistat." — Fleurius, Sermo super Ecclesia Galli- 

 cance Libertatihus. 



I have not time to search for the other exam- 

 ples which he wants ; though I have not any doubt 

 but they would easily be found. The English 

 Chui'ch has been, I consider, a more Romanising 

 church than many ; but, in mediaeval times, the 

 most intimate connexion with Rome did not de- 

 stroy, though it impaired, the nationality of the 

 church. The church of Spain is, I believe, now 

 one of the most national of the churches in com- 

 munion with Rome. W. Fraseb. 



Tor-Mohun. 



Gloves at Fairs (Vol. vii., p. 455.). — The writer 

 saw, a few years ago, the shape of a glove hanging 



