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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 187. 



he is at a loss for, was W. S. Landor, whose foot- 

 note to vol. ii. p. 273., Moxon's edit, of his works, 

 is as follows : 



" And here it may be permitted the editor to profit 

 also by the manuscript, correcting in Shakspeare what 

 is absolute nonsense as now printed : 



' Vaulting ambition that o'erleaps itself. 

 And falls on the other side.' 



Other side of what? It should be its sell. Sell is 

 saddle in Spenser and elsewhere, from the Latin and 

 Italian." 



A correspondent of " N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 404., 

 will be delighted to find his very ingenious dis- 

 covery brought home, and corroborated by Lan- 

 der's valuable manuscript : but it is an old said 

 saw — " Great wits jump." Now to our examples : 



" Pasquin. Saint Luke also affirmeth the same, 

 saying flatly that he shall not be forgiuen. Beholde, 

 therefore, how well they interprete the Scriptures. 



Marforius. I am alreadie at a poi/nt with them, but 

 thou shalt doo me great pleasure to expounde also 

 vnto me certayne other places, vppon the which they 

 ground this deceit." — Pasquine in a Traunce, turned 

 but lately out of the Italian into this tongue by W. P.: 

 London, 1584. 



" But look, where malice reigneth in men, there 

 reason can take no place : and, therefore, I see by it, 

 that you are all at a point with me, that no reason or 

 authority can persuade you to favour my name, who 

 never meant evil to you, but both your commodity and 

 profit." — Foxe's Acts and Monuments, vol. viii. p. 18. 



" Not so, my lord," said I, " for I am at a full point 

 with myself in that matter; and am right well able to 

 prove both your transubstantiation with the real pre- 

 sence to be against the Scriptures and the ancient 

 Fathers of the primitive Church." — Id., p. 587. 



" Winchester. No, surely, I am fully determined, 

 and fully at a point therein, howsoever my brethren do." 

 — Id., p. 691. 



" Brad. Sir, so that you will define me your church, 

 that under it you bring not in a false church, you shall 

 not see but that we shall soon be at a point." — Id., 

 vol. vii. p. 1 90. 



" Latimer. Truly, my lord, as for my part I require 

 no respite, for I am at a point. You shall give me 

 respite in vain ; therefore, I pray you let me not trouble 

 you to-morrow." — Id., p. 534. 



"Unto whom he (Lord Cobham) gave this answer: 

 ' Do as ye shall think best, for I am at a point.' Whatso- 

 ever he (Archbishop Arundel) or the other bishops did 

 ask him after that, he bade them resort to his bill : for 

 thereby would he stand to the very death." — Id., vol. iii. 

 pp. 327-8. 



" ' Et ilia et ista vera esse credantur et nulla inter 

 nos contentio remanebit, quia nee illis veris ista, nee 

 istis veris ilia impediuntur.' Let bothe those truthes 

 and these truthes be beleued, and we shall be at ap- 

 jpoinct. For neither these truthes are impaired by the 



other, neither the other by these." — A Fortresse of the. 

 Faith, p. 50., by Thomas Stapleton: Antwerp, 1565, 



" A poore man that shall haue lined at home in the 

 countrie, and neuer tasted of honoure and pompe, is 

 alwayes at a poynt with himselfe, when menne scorne 

 and disdayne him, or shewe any token of contempt 

 towardes his person." — John Calvin's CVIII. Sermon 

 OH the Thirtieth Chap, of Job, p. 554., translated by 

 Golding: London, 1574. 



" As for peace, I am at a point." — Leicester Corre- 

 spondence, Camd. Soc, p. 261. 



W. R. Arrowsmith. 



(Tb be continued.) 



FOLK LORE. 



Weather Rules. — The Interesting article on- 

 " The Shepherd of Banbury's Weather Rules" 

 (Vol. vii., p. 373.) has reminded me of two sayings^ 

 I heard in Worcestershire a few months back, and 

 upon which my informant placed the greatest reli- 

 ance. The first is, " If the moon changes on a Sun- 

 day, there will be a flood before the month is out."' 

 My authority asserted that through a number of 

 years he has never known this fail. The month 

 in which the change on a Sunday has occurred has 

 been fine until the last day, when the flood came. 

 The other saying is, " Look at the weathercock on 

 St. Thomas's day at twelve o'clock, and see which, 

 way the wind is, and there it will stick for the next 

 quarter," that is, three months. Can any of your 

 readers confirm the above, and add any similar 

 " weather rules ?" J. A., Juif». 



Birmingham. 



Drills presaging Death (Vol. vii., p. 353.). — 

 Your correspondent asks if the superstition he- 

 here alludes to in Norfolk is believed in other 

 parts. I can give him a case in point in Berk- 

 shire : — Some twenty years ago an old gentleman 

 died there, a near relative of my own ; and on 

 going down to his place, I was told by a farm 

 overseer of his, that he was certain some of his 

 lordship's family would die that season, as, in the 

 last sowing, he had missed putting the seed in one- 

 row, which he showed me ! " Who could disbe- 

 lieve it now ?" quoth the old man. I was then 

 taken to the bee-hives, and at the door of every 

 one this man knocked with his knuckles, and in- 

 formed the occupants that they must now work for 

 a new master, as their old one was gone to heaven. 

 This, I believe, has been queried in your invalu- 

 able paper some time since. I only send it by the- 

 way. I know the same superstition is still extant 

 in "Cheshire, North Wales, and in some parts of 

 Scotland. T. W. N. 



Malta. 



A friend supplies me with the information that 

 before drills were invented, the iabouirers con- 



