Jan. 28. 1854.] 



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peared twenty years antecedent to the time above 

 specified. It is entitled La Gazette de Londres, 

 publiee avec Privilege, depuis le Jeudi 11, jusquau 

 Lundi 15, Mai, 1682 (vieux style), No. 1621. It 

 gives a very circumstantial detail of the loss of 

 the "Gloucester" frigate, near the mouth of, the 

 Humber, in the night of Friday, May 5, 1682, 

 when she was conveying the Duke of York (post- 

 quam James II.) to Scotland. Sir John Berry, 

 who commanded the vessel, managed to remove 

 the duke to another ship ; but the Earl of Rox- 

 burgh, Lord O'Brien, the Laird of Hopetoun, 

 Sir Joseph Douglas, Mr. Hyde (Lord Claren- 

 don's brother), several of the duke's servants, and 

 about 130 seamen, were lost in the " Gloucester." 

 The pilot was either deficient in skill, or obstinate, 

 and was to be brought to trial.* 



With regard to the reason of publishing a French 

 version of the Gazette, might it not be judged ex- 

 pedient (as the French was then spoken in every 

 Court in Europe, and the English language almost 

 unknown out of the British dominions) to publish 

 this translation in French for foreign circulation ? 

 It is to be remarked that the copy I have met 

 with is styled privileged ? D. N. 



" Poscimus in vita., 1 ' 8fc. (Vol. ix., p. 19.). — 

 Allow me to correct a double error in this line into 

 which Mr. Potter has fallen, though he has im- 

 proved upon the line of Balliolensis. The true 

 reading of it is — 



" Poscimus in vitam pauca, nee ista diu." 



In vitam (for life) is better Latin than "in vita ;" 

 and ista is more appropriate than " ilia," in refer- 

 ence to things spoken unfavourably of. 



C. DelaPryme. 



Pichard Family (Vol. ix., p. 10.). — The Pickard 

 family are not from Normandy, but from Piccardy. 

 Doubtless, many a Le Norman, Le Gascoign, and 

 Le Piccard settled in this .country during the 

 Plantagenet connexion with those provinces. P. P. 



" Man proposes, tut God disposes " (Vol. viii., 

 pp. 411. 552.). — Piers Ploughman's Vision, quoted 

 by your correspondent Mr. Thomas, proves that 

 the above saying was used prior to the time of 

 Thomas a Kempis ; but in adding that it did not 

 originate with the author of the De Imitatione, 

 your correspondent overlooked the view which 

 attributes that wonderful work to John Gerson, a 

 Benedictine Monk, between the years 1220 and 

 1240 ; and afterwards Abbat of the monastery of 



[* It will be remembered tbat Pepys accompanied 

 the Duke of York on this excursion to Scotland, and 

 was fortunately on board his own yacht when the 

 "Gloucester" was wrecked. His graphic account of 

 the disaster will be found in the Correspondence at 

 the end of his Diary. — Ed.] 



St. Stephen. (Vide De Imit. curd Joh. Hrabieta, 

 1847, Praefat., viii. et seq.) 



Can any of your correspondents give other early 

 quotations from the De Imitatione ? The search 

 after any such seems to have been much over- 

 looked in determining the date of that work. 



H. P. 



Lincoln's Inn. 



General Wkitelocke (Vol. viii., p. 621.). — In 

 reply to G. L. S., I well remember this unfortu- 

 nate officer residing at Clifton, near Bristol, up 

 to about the year 1826 ; but as I then removed 

 to a distant part of the kingdom, I cannot say 

 where the rest of his life was spent. Although I 

 was then but young, the lapse of years has not 

 effaced from my memory the melancholy gloom of 

 his countenance. If the information G. L. S. is 

 seeking should be of importance, I cannot but 

 think he may obtain it on the traces which have 

 been given him. To which I may add, that up 

 to a late period a son of the General, who was 

 brought up to the church, held a living near Mai-, 

 ton, Yorkshire ; in^ied, I believe he still holds it. 



D. N.'s information, that General Whitelocke 

 fixed his residence in Somersetshire, may probably 

 be correct ; but it has occurred to me as just 

 possible that Clifton was the place pointed to, in- 

 asmuch as it is a vulgar error, almost universal, 

 that Bristol (of which Clifton may now be said to 

 be merely the west end) is in Somersetshire ; 

 whereas the fact is, that the greater part of that 

 city, and the whole of Clifton, are on the Glouces- 

 tershire side of the Avon, there the boundary 

 between the two counties. 



I may mention, that in a late number of TaWs 

 Magazine (?), there was a tale, half fiction and 

 half fact, but evidently meant to appear the latter,, 

 in which the narrator states that he was in the 

 ranks in General Whitelocke's army ; and in that 

 fatal affair, in which he was engaged, the soldiers 

 found that the flints had been removed from all 

 the muskets, so as to prevent their returning the 

 enemy's fire ! And this by order of their General. 

 Is not this a fresh invention ? If so, it is a cruel 

 one ! M. H. R. 



Non-jurors' 1 Motto (Vol. viii., p. 621.).—" Cetera 

 quis nescit" is from Ovid, Amorum, lib. i., Elegia v. 

 v. 25. W. J. Bernhard Smith. 



Temple. 



" The Red Cow " Sign, near Marlborough 

 (Vol. viii., p. 569.). — Being informed tbat Crom- 

 well's old carriages, with the " Red Cow" on them, 

 were some years ago to be seen as curiosities at 

 Manton near Marlborough ; Cromwell being a 

 descendant of a Williams from Glamorgan, and 

 the cow being the coat of arms of Cowbridge ; and 

 the signs of inns in that county being frequently 



