June 10. 1854.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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seat. Life itself is but the shadow of death, and souls 

 departed but theshadows of the living : all things fall 

 under this name. The sun itself is but the dark simula- 

 crum, and light but the shadow of God!" 



J. Sansom. 

 Oxford. 



" Wise men labour," 8fc. (Vol. ix., p. 468.). — 

 The following version of these lines is printed in 

 the Collection of Loyal Songs, written against the 

 Bump Parliament between the Years 1639 — 1661 : 

 " Complaint. 

 " Wise men suffer, good men grieve, 

 Knaves devise and fools believe ; 

 Help, O Lord ! send aid unto us, 

 Else knaves and fools will quite undo us." 



These four lines constitute the whole of the piece, 



which is anonymous : vol. i. p. 27., and also on the 



title-page. B. H. C. 



[We are indebted to S-C. P. J. for a similar reply.] 



Copernicus (Vol. ix., p. 447.)- — This inscription, 

 as given in " N. & Q.," contains two false quan- 

 tities, Grdtiam and Veniam. May I suggest the 

 transposal of the two words, and then all will be 

 right, at least as to prosody, which, in Latin poetry, 

 seems to override all other considerations. 



C. De la Pryme. 



N.B. — What is the nominative to poor dederatf 



Meals, Meols (Vol. vii., pp. 208. 298. ; Vol. ix., 

 p. 409.). — The word " mielles" is of frequent oc- 

 currence in Normandy and the Channel Islands, 

 where it is applied to sandy downs bordering the 

 sea-shore. It is not to be found in French dic- 

 tionaries, and, like the words hovgue, falaise, and 

 others in use in Normandy, has probably come 

 down from the Northmen, who gave their name to 

 that province. Edgar Macculeoch. 



Guernsey. 



Byron and Bochefoucauld (Vol. ix., p. 347.). — 

 Allow me to refer your correspondent Sigma to 

 " N. & Q.," Vol. i., p. 260., where, under the signa- 

 ture of Melanion, I noted Byron's two unacknow- 

 ledged obligations to La Bochefoucauld, and the 

 blunder made in the note on Don Juan, canto iii. 

 st. 4. Sigma will also find these and other passages 

 from Byron given among the notes in the trans- 

 lation of La Bochefoucauld, published in 1850 

 (June) by Messrs. Longman and Co. 



C. Forbes. 



Temple. 



Bobert Eden (Vol. ix., p. 374.).— Robert Eden, 

 Archdeacon and Prebendary of Winchester, was 

 the son of Robert Eden, of Newcastle-upon-Tyne. 

 The Edens of Auckland and the Edens of New- 

 castle were descended from two brothers. The 

 Archdeacon was fourth cousin of the first baronet. 



His daughter, Mary, married Ebenezer Blackwell, 

 Esq., and their daughter, Philadelphia, married 

 Lieut.-Col. G. R. P. Jarvis, of Doddington, in 

 Lincolnshire. I am descended from a first cousin 

 of the Archdeacon, and could furnish R. E. C, if 

 I knew his address, with farther particulars re- 

 specting the Edens of Newcastle. E. H. A. 



Dates of Maps (Vol. ix., p. 396.).— I think the 

 answer to Mr. Warden's very just complaint re- 

 specting maps not being dated is easily accounted 

 for, much more easily, I fear, than reformed. The 

 last published map is considered the most exact 

 and useful; it, therefore, is the interest of the map- 

 seller to sell off all of the old ones that he can ; 

 hence it is difficult, unless some pains are taken, to 

 ascertain which is the last. A. publishes a new 

 map of France, B. then publishes one ; but both 

 avoid putting the date, as the oldest date would 

 sell fewer, and the newer map proprietor expects a 

 still newer one soon to appear. By A. I do not 

 mean to allude to Mr. Arrowsmith in particular, 

 who is one of the best, if not the best, map-seller 

 we have. But why are large military map-sellers 

 so much dearer with us than on the Continent? I 

 must except the Ordnance map, which is now 

 sold cheaply, thanks entirely to Mr. Hume's exer- 

 tions in parliament. A. (1) 



Miss Elstob (Vol. iii., p. 497.). — This surname 

 is so uncommon that I have met with but three 

 instances of persons bearing it ; one was the lady 

 referred to by your correspondent, the second was 

 her brother, the Rev. William Elstob, and the 

 third was Dryden Elstob, who served for some 

 time in the 3rd Light Dragoons, and also, I be- 

 lieve, in the Royal Navy, — at least I know that he 

 used to wear a naval uniform in the streets of 

 London. I believe that the family was settled at 

 one time at Newcastle-on-Tyne.* What is known 

 of the family ? Juverna. 



Corporation Enactments (Vol. ix., p. 300.). — 

 Your correspondent Abhba having omitted to 

 mention where he found the curious piece of in- 

 formation which under this title he supplied to 

 you, I beg leave to supply the deficiency. The 

 same paragraph, nearly verbatim, has been long 

 since published in a book which is by no means 

 rare, the Dublin Penny Journal, vol. i. p. 226. 

 (No. 29, January 12, 1833), where it appears 

 thus : 



" In the town books of the corporation of Youghal, 

 among many other singular enactments of that body, 

 are two which will now be regarded as curiosities. 

 In the years 1680 and 1700, a cook and a barber were 

 made freemen, on condition that they should severally 



[* Both William Elstob and his learned sister were 

 born at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, of which place their 

 father, Ralph Elstob, was a merchant.] 



