Discussion on ifr, Gihh^s Paj^er. 39 



too long for the name of an apple. We need names our farmers can spell 

 and pronounce. Still let us beware of the fault of over-translation. Anis and 

 Anisovka are better names than Anisette, Titovka a better name than Titus, 

 and besides it points directly to its place of origin, the little hamlet of Titov, 

 near Kalonga; Antonovka, perhaps, a better name than Anthony; and a 

 name like Langer Griiner positively must not be sent out under the name 

 of Long Green, unless it be distinctly understood that this Long Green is 

 the Langer Griiner, of Kaczynsk, of Warsaw, or whatever person or place 

 received from. 



Thus we see, that owing to a combination of causes, we are drifting into 

 sad confusion regarding the nomenclature of our Russian fruits. The work 

 has its difficulties, but the longer we put it off the greater they will become. 



I wish to draw the attention of the members of this Society to this matter, 

 and hope that by their aid the American Pomological Society, at its next 

 meeting in September, may be able to appoint a committee prepared to 

 act at once and give to these fruits the names they are to be known by on 

 this continent. 



DISCUSSION ON MR. GIBB's PAPER. 



President Earle — This paper is of much value to those of us who 

 live under the shadow of the arctic circle. Its discussion will be 

 of great interest to members who belong to the extreme northern 

 portion of our country. 



Mr. Roe, of Wisconsin — I approve Mr. Gibb's suggestion to sim- 

 plify these Russian names. After I received our last year's report, 

 in which this subject was discussed at length, I wrote an article 

 upon Russian fruits for a Milwaukee paper, wiiich was not pub- 

 lished, the editor admitting that the names were too much for him. 



Mr. Barnard, of Nebraska — We have never found a Russian 

 apple in Nebraska that is as good as the Ben Davis. If we can 

 determine the southern limit of profitable culture of Russian va- 

 rieties it will save our people much needless expense in experiment- 

 ing with them. 



3Ir. Willard, of New York — We have no better and more valu- 

 able early apple in our State than the Yellow Transparent. This 

 being the case, can we not hope to find others of similar origin that 

 may prove equally valuable ? 



3Ir. Stiekney, of Wisconsin — Many of these varieties are of great 

 value to us of Wisconsin. AVe will not be able to draw lines 

 north and south of which a given variety will prove valuable or 



