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Marvin Allutn." I seem to recall Marvin Allum in his 

 anonymous capacity, because the lights were out, was 

 talking to those slides a good portion of the morning. 



I don't want to dispute you, Doctor, or 



ti It 



Professor, that in the scientific bibliography sense, I 



don't want to dispute those words, but I do think that both 



the agencies--and I think on this I can speak for the 



State and us, because we worked in this together --have a 



practice of producing the people who are responsible for 



the reports. And as far as I know in the regulatory or 



legal sense we make no anonymous reports. As a matter of 



fact, we find it hard to get hearsay into court. 



MR. ENGLISH: Well, if you opened the floor 

 to me again I would say, then, I must most respectfully 

 dispute you. If I have been told that we have the white 

 hats and the black hats here today, then in the business 

 I work in this is called the gray literature. 



I have discussed this matter with the 

 scientists who worked on this project and they disclaim 

 responsibility for the statements in that report. There- 

 fore, I consider it to be an anonymous report. 



Many reports of a very closely parallel 

 nature are subdivided into sections and the name of the 

 scientist is used with his work. In other words, I under- 

 stand from that name who did the work. 



