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BOB 0. BOWER 

 whether you or the pulp and paper industry, can do 

 technically and what they can do economically. This is 

 something we have to balance. 



And I think given an individual problem, 

 we can very often find the solution. It is often these 

 philosophic differences that keep us apart and keep us 

 from talking. 



MR. BOWER: Well, I would like to point 



out, Chairman Stein, that I believe you are an incurable 

 optimist when you stated yesterday, "we are getting closer" 

 because the pulp man stated that the straight liquor was 

 toxic. The oyster people, 50 percent of them, are not 

 optimistic and the other 50 percent are pessimistic that 

 we are going to get anything done, even out of this 

 Conference. 



But we want to be on the record that we 

 have requested something to be done, just as we have for 

 the last 30 years, and we surely wish you every luck. 

 We hope that the pulp mills will take the suggestion that 

 Mr. Gruble read out of the P-I editorial and come to 

 realize that we can all live together, but they have to 

 do their share. 



CHAIRMAN STEIN: If I weren't an incurable 

 optimist, I wouldn't be in the business; I would transfer 



