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 of this report was completely overlooked. Instead of 

 giving us the statistical proof that the salmon and the 

 steelhead of the Snohomish, Nooksack and Stillaguamish 

 are harmed, we are asked to accept the conclusion derived 

 from live box studies in the harbors. I think that you 

 would be interested in looking at this public data. 



I am going to put on some slides. I will 

 make sure that you get copies of these slides. Incidentally, 

 I have two large reports that I have prepared for the North- 

 west Pulp and Paper Association analyzing this material, 

 which I will see that you get. 



CHAIRMAN STEIN: Dr. Katz, how big are 

 these reports? 



DR. KATZ: Large reports. 



CHAIRMAN STEIN: How many copies can you 

 have Qoade? 



DR. KATZ: I think the mimeograph machines 

 could produce thousands. (Laughter) 



CHAIRMAN STEIN: No, how many could you 

 give us? 



DR. KATZ: As many as you want. 

 CHAIRMAN STEIN: All right. We will have 

 those, without any objections-- 



DR. KATZ: Don Benson, of course, will be 



