JEFFERS ; Industry must be involved. 



WILKINS: N. Frazer's model was supported. Not only 



scientists but fishermen and others who may be 

 affected by this model should be consulted. 

 Training and public education programs must be 

 considered. 



PARSONS ; He is a manager responsible for making some of 



these decisions. Information from scientists is 

 needed to help us make these decisions. When we 

 go to them, they tell us that they don't have the 

 information we need. This group should focus on 

 specific management options and fully discuss 

 them, for example, captive breeding programs. 



CANIN ; He supported what N. Frazer said. The moratorium 



should stimulate some debate. If the moratorium 

 gains momentum, more control on the taking of 

 turtles will be attained. Even a limited 

 moratorium will give us time to educate people to 

 use smaller sea turtles. High levels of 

 incidental take in certain areas, beach 

 modification and destruction, and ocean debris are 

 also problems. More must be done to stop the 

 killing of adult sea turtles. 



BURNETTE-HERKES ; N. Frazer's model showed a decline in 



reproductive value at 50-60 years. Can he give us 

 an explanation for this? 



FRAZER; 



CHARLES ; 



That may be an artifact resulting from assumptions 

 that were made. The data show that adult female 

 loggerheads have a year to year survival rate of 

 80%. Since turtles do not live "forever," some 

 assumptions were made with regard to when they 

 die. This decline implies nothing about senility. 



Fishermen and beach walkers who take sea turtles 

 for food are not dependent on these turtles. 

 These people must be educated as to the importance 

 of sea turtles. A closer look at the moratorium 

 must be taken. 



Perhaps this is not the best way for small islands 

 to handle turtle conservation. Shortening the 

 taking season for turtles may be better. 



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