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manned flight operations So that would move the figure of $1,651,100,000 request of 

 NASA for Apollo to $1,777,500,000. 



In addition to stepped-up support for the Apollo program, the 

 Manned Space Flight Subcommittee took a strongly bullish approach 

 to the Space Shuttle and Space Station programs, urging an $80 million 

 increase in these areas. All in all, the subcommittee opted for an 

 increase of $297 million over the budget, in order to keep pace with the 

 recommendations of the Space Task Group and to purchase long 

 lead-time items necessary to keep the manned space flight program on 

 schedule. 



During the markup by the Karth Subcommittee on Space Science 

 and Applications there erupted the first confrontation between sup- 

 porters and opponents of the Space Shuttle. In the presence of Chairman 

 Miller, who was attending as an ex officio member of the Karth 

 subcommittee, Karth began to criticize NASA's cost estimates on 

 Project Viking (the unmanned probe to Mars) as "atrociously inac- 

 curate." Karth went on to suggest: 



Here we arc going into contracts on the Shuttle which for all practical purposes 

 is a new program, not even a year old, and we haven't done the basic research neces- 

 sarv in the laboratory to determine just how this Shuttle vehicle ought to be 

 bui'lt. * * * 



I will predict on the record right here that program will cosr at least three times 

 what NASA today is saying ir is going to cost just on the basis of our experience here 

 in these other programs. 



Chairman Miller sprang to an immediate defense of the Shuttle: 



You are going to have something eventually that has to go out and visit the 

 synchronous satellites that are going to be in space and be used for all time hence. 

 We can't afford to orbit these things and have them go to pieces in six months to a 

 year without being able to go out and recover them or perhaps fix them in space. 

 That is what part of it is. You have got to have the Shuttle. 



During the second day of the Karth subcommittee markup, Staff 

 Director Frank Hammill observed: "I have heard that Mr. Tea^ue is 

 going to propose to the full committee that the manned space flight 

 authorization be increased." Karth exploded: 



I think that is ridiculous in a budget year like this year, parncularlv since thc 

 budget is within an eyelash of being unbalanced 



This stimulated the following interchange: 



Mr Moshi r What does Tiger want to do with the extra money? 



Mr. Hammill. Mr. Teague asked Mr. Myers to tell him what he would do it 

 the manned space flight budget were increased. * * * 



Mr. Karth. The manned space flight people think thev are bad off, but 50 percent 

 of the budget is going to manned space flight 



