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In general, the House conferees agreed to go along with the Senate's 

 new ideas only it they were cut down to manageable size, and spelled 

 out in clearly circumscribed language. The House conferees, and in 

 particular McCormack, stood firm in their opposition to the science 

 for citizens program in the size proposed by the Senate 



On September 1, Senator Kennedy telephoned Congressman 

 McCormack in an attempt to reach a compromise which would break 

 the deadlock. The House and Senate staffs developed new language 

 which they presented as a possible compromise. McCormack, after 

 consultation with the committee staff and House legislative counsel, 

 advised Teague that the new wording would be acceptable only if 

 additional language were included to prohibit grants to any lobbyist 

 or person or group who was an "intervenor" before any Government 

 agency. In a memo to Teague on September 1, McCormack added: 



If Senator Kennedy is sincere about simply wanting to fund " Science for Citizens" 

 programs or to provide "public understanding of science" then he would not object 

 to our limitation. 



McCormack added this personal background note to reinforce his 

 firm position: 



It is important to remember that Kennedy has more "goodies" in this bill than 

 anybody else and that they are for his people to whom he is appealing in his reelection 

 campaign. I don't think he will let the bill die and he certainly can't blame us if we 

 send him a formal letter or make a public statement saying that we are ready to pass 

 the bill either without this section or with this section and our amendment to it. 

 That puts the monkey on his back and I feel convinced that he will cave in. We can 

 easily be tough and sit here for two weeks, if necessary. It will only take us 5 minutes 

 to pass the bill in both houses once we get agreement. 



GIVE 'em hell, tiger! 



WHO WILL BLINK FIRST? 



Senator Kennedy agreed to reduce the amount for this feature of 

 the bill from $3 million down to $1.2 million, and to write severe 

 limitations into the language of both the bill and the conference report 

 explaining it. It was decided to incorporate language in the report 

 prohibiting grants to lobbyists, but Senator Kennedy would not agree 

 to including this in the law or to include the McCormack language 

 barring funds to any intervenor. The conference remained deadlocked 

 throughout the early days of September, and a meeting among 

 Kennedy, Symington, and McCormack failed to break the deadlock. 

 The situation on September 15 was described by Dr. Wells in a note to 

 Teague : 



The essence of the Science for Citizens Program disagreement is this: Mr. \K 

 Cormack believes that no money, in any form, should go to lobbyists or intervenors; 



