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American Fisheries Society believes that it is possible 

 for man to make highly beneficial use of of the vast renewable 

 resources of the Antarctic. In utilizing these resources, 

 however, we see many threats to a healthy environment. Ex- 

 perience teaches us that even single nation management regimes 

 in comfortable climates are far from perfect. Implementation 

 of a successful management multinational management regime 

 in the world's harshest climate will perhaps be the toughest 

 challenge ever faced in fisheries diplomacy. 



CHAIRMAN BREWSTER: Thank you, Mr. Sullivan. 



MR. SULLIVAN: Thank you for the opportunity to be heard; 

 and I will pass these copies along to you. 



MR. CHAPLIN BARNES: Mr. Ambassador, I am Chaplin Barnes, 

 of the National Audubon Society. I know that on numerous oc- 

 casions you have said that you favor the creation of a public 

 advisory committee. Since you favor the creation of a public 

 advisory committee, I wonder where the thinking of the Depart- 

 ment now is on that issue -- and whether that's the form that 

 you are going to go for — or what we might expect. 



CHAIRMAN BREWSTER: I can very easily answer what the 

 thinking of the Department is. I have more difficulty in 

 replying what the action of the Department is. (Laughter.) 



I still wish, and so does the Department wish, to estab- 

 lish an advisory committee. There is, as I think you are aware, 

 a general attempt on the part of the Administration to cut 

 down on the number of advisory committees, and it has to be ac- 

 knowledged that there are a large number of them whose purposes 

 and existence are perhaps questionable. So that has been the 

 practical impediment to our doing it. 



What I am currently hoping to do is to utilize one of the 

 presently authorized and established committees of the Depart- 

 ment and to create in that an Antarctic section that obviates 

 the necessity for an approval at various levels both in the 

 Department and in other government organizations. That is 

 what I am attempting to do. 



I am unable to say (a) whether I will be successful; 

 or (b ) , when . 



MR. JAMES BARNES: To follow that up a little bit, one 

 of the other things that I think has concerned a lot of us 

 about our role in forums like this, is our access to data 

 and I would just mention one thing specifically that came up 



