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— would create problems for them. 



MR. JAMES BARNES: Well, would it be useful to concept- 

 ualize this as being composed of several parts and, putting 

 aside all the other range of documents that we may be talking 

 about and letting the conventional rules apply to those at 

 least for the time being -- and take out as one category, 

 all the documents that relate to the living resource regime 

 (which as we all see is going to be drafted outside, at least 

 partly outside the context of the Antarctic Treaty anyway) 

 and you know without access to those documents, it makes it 

 rather impossible for interested members of the public, anywhere 

 in the world, to have the kind of input that I think you and 

 our government at least, feel they should have. 



I think that those documents in fact, are quite differ- 

 ent than some of the ones you may be referring to and I can't 

 really see why there is such a great problem in releasing 

 those — unless the institution of the consultative parties 

 as a group, feel that by giving those documents they will 

 breach their general position irrevocably in some way. 



CHAIRMAN BREWSTER: That is one concern, and the other 

 is that they may refer to other documents or other discussions 

 which they are unwilling to declassify or to make available. 



I have to honestly state that I don't think that at this 

 juncture there is anything I can do about that. 



MS. SCHARLIN: Mr. Ambassador, I wonder if we can talk 

 a little bit about the whole question of the territorial 

 claims raised in my letter, and which you did answer. 



But I wondered if you might elaborate a little more on 

 how Article IV could be, perhaps utilized to deal with this 

 issue — especially if the conservation regime does extend 

 to the full range of the species. 



CHAIRMAN BREWSTER: To be used with respect to marine 

 living resources? 



MS. SCHARLIN: Yes. 



MS. BAILLY: I think, Pat, that it remains to be seen 

 what develops in the negotiations and in consultations before 

 the meeting. But a possibility is sort of the way it was 

 treated in this agreed recommendation. There is a principle, 

 in Section III Number 3, Subparagraph d which is not really 

 terribly different that the principles that are embodied 



