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gime initially even will try to establish a total quota for 

 krill, for example? 



MR. SCULLY: Yes, that would be one form of conservation 

 measure we would see as being envisaged. Yes. 



MR JAMES BARNES: What was intended with this phrase 

 "other than economic regulation of harvesting", then? 



We don't understand — I think I speak for many groups 

 in saying this — that we don't really understand what other 

 economic regulation of harvesting encompasses — and what the 

 intent of the people who drafted this, was — what it's in- 

 tended to cover, by employing that phrase. 



MR. SCULLY: Well, I will speak for what my understand- 

 ing of what the phrase means, which is that it was not in- 

 tended at this stage to engage in dividing between specific 

 nations the allowable catches which could be set pursuant 

 to the regime — which the regime would envisage. 



DR. AUBURN: Sorry, I'm Francis Auburn, from the Uni- 

 versity of Auckland. 



To keep on with this I think this is a vital point. 



The words used are: "catch allocation" and "economic 

 regulation" or "and other economic regulation." 



Now "catch allocation" would clearly be excluded. 



MR. SCULLY: I think your point may be well taken and 

 I think that, if in fact the interpretation can be that it 

 would preclude certain kinds of conservation regulations, 

 we would oppose it. We would certainly oppose that inter- 

 pretation of it. 



It is our view, at least our preliminary view included 



