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THE CHAIRi'>'iAN : Absent 2 Convention, countries vnicn 

 are planning uo narvest can go anead and narvest. 



MR. HOFFMANN: Sure. I ' n not saying leopardize tne 

 negotiation of a conservation regime m order to acnieve 

 tnis subsidiary, and admittedly suDsidiary, point that 

 I've been talking about. I'm simply saying it is more of 

 a proDlem tnan the attention that's been given to it in- 

 dicates . 



MR. SCULLY: If I might just add a point in response, 

 or at least in comment, it seems to me that there may be 

 some confusion in your remarks between participation in the 

 Antarctic Treaty and participation in the regime. It is our 

 view that participation in the regime to conserve Antarctic 

 living marine resources should not be limited to members, 

 to consultative parties, or even to acceding parties to the 

 Antarctic Treaty. It should be open to any state that is 

 involved in the activities covered -- essentially, fishing 

 activities . 



Therefore, to take the case of Brazil, and I'm quite 

 sure I see the analogy; but it would be our hope that a 

 regime could be designed to which Brazil would adhere to at 

 such time as it began to undertake fishing activities in the 

 area . 



To go back to the question of distributive elements, I 

 think what bothers me to a certain extent is an assumption 



— an automatic assumption, which I think I hear, that krill 

 will solve world food problems or will solve developing- 

 country problems with regard to protein deficiencies. I'm 

 not sure that's true. I'm not sure we're in a position to 

 say that's true and to start negotiating on the basis of the 

 fact that it is true. Krill may offer only a very high-cost 

 protein for certain end uses. It may be that krill -- krills 



— will not compete favorably with other forms of fishmeal, 

 for instance, or with various kinds of vegetable protein 

 sources — soybeans or whatever — if it's being used as an 

 animal feed or something of that sort. 



My reaction is that I don't know whether one should 

 seek to establish or to rely upon Antarctic marine living 

 resources as a major element in anybody's development 

 strategy. We can't make that decision now. I would hope 

 that the Convention will neither preclude that nor end up 

 losing its conservation effectiveness by seeking incorpora- 

 tion of elements that are premature. 



