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time now for me to speak. I take exception to what was said about 

 the white grape. I think, in Arkansas, we can grow as fine grapes 

 as they grow in California, and superior in quality. I shipped 

 white, amber and dark grapes here. When I shipped white grapes 

 I got eight or nine cents a pound, amber colored ones I sold at 

 eight and one-third, and dark ones brought twelve to thirteen. I 

 think the gentleman is mistaken when he speaks about this market 

 demanding a light grape. 



Mr. Goodman, of Missouri — I speak with reference to fruit 

 growers about Kansas City. Our Martha and Goethe will bring 

 nearly double what the Hartford will, and the Delaware will bring 

 treble as much. 



B)\ Grego7-y — We do not grow the Hartford, and hardly consider 

 the Ives worthy. I spoke too soon, as I see the gentleman was 

 only speaking of those growing right here, but we are not far off. 



3Ir. Durand, of Missouri — I would ask Maj, Ragan if he would 

 recommend the Huntsman and Bellflower as profitable apples? 



Maj. Ragan — The Bellflower, to be successful, must be grown on 

 poor soil. The Huntsman, I believe, is a good bearer, not like the 

 Missouri Pippin and some others. The Newtown Pippin is not 

 grown much here. I like it, but I think it requires age and rich 

 ground. 



Mr. Durand — I have been raising apples some, and I came here 

 to get information. The Ben Davis seems to have the general run 

 all over the country. One gentleman says it is the best for drying. 

 I do not consider it a good drying apple. It is too light, not yield- 

 ing enough pounds of dried fruit. 



Mr. Webb, of Kentucky — I wish to ask about the Thwack rasp- 

 berry. I fruited it and was pleased, except that it was too feeble 

 in plant. Is that characteristic of it? 



This was answered in the negative. 



Mr. Williams, of Kansas — I would like to ask Mr. Goodman 

 about the Missouri Pippin, if he discards it? 



Mr. Goodman — No, I did not aim to give a full list of desirable 

 varieties. 



Mr. Johnson, of Indiana — Our Committee on Nomenclature has 



