164 Mississippi Valley Horticultural Society. 



Mr. Johnson, of Indiana — In answer to Gov. Colman I would 

 say, I had the Thwack one year, and did not like it; but it has 

 grown in my favor. I told Gov. Colman, privately, I would take 

 back all I had said against it. 



Mr. Holsinger — The Cuthbert we have tried to our sorrow. I 

 know of but one person here who has succeeded with it. In every 

 condition I have tried it, it has done poorly. It is a rampant 

 grower but winter-kills. 



Mr. Williams, of Indiana — In regard to selling apples, I think 

 many are laboring under a mistake because they are not acquainted 

 with the market. A commission man realizes that certain markets 

 want certain kinds. Where they are wanted for culinary purposes, 

 they want quality; but in the South they want color. 



Mr. Ohmer, of Ohio — I had about a thousand bushels of Rome 

 Beauty, Bellflower, etc. A man came and wanted Pennock. He 

 wanted no other, and the Pennock I would not have on my place. 



3Ir. Hollister, of Missouri — Of late years I find northern mar- 

 kets want red apples, too. There are exceptions. The Bellflower, 

 Newtown Pippin, etc., are wanted, but they are shy bearers. I find 

 a big red apple is getting more in favor. In regard to raspberries, 

 the Turner I have handled successfully. The secret is to pick them 

 at the right time. I have reshipped those sent to me from Illinois 

 to Kansas and Nebraska with success. 



Mr. Durand — I still hold to the ground I took in reference to the 

 common sense of the people. I want to supply what they want. 

 If a whole company, as was said, takes Ben Davis in preference to 

 others, I would supply them with Ben Davis. 



3Ir. Gihbs, of Minnesota — I am satisfied that the contradictory 

 reports that we hear about color, texture, flavor, etc., are on account 

 of the pollen, and I believe when we come to- know this rightly, 

 the discussion will be cut short on this subject. I will call atten- 

 tion to one thought of Darwin. He states that Thomas Andrew 

 Knight, in hundreds of crosses, failed to show that there was any 

 immediate influence on the apple. It afl^ected the seed first and then 

 showed its effect on the apple in the next generation. But there 

 were facts which satisfied Darwin that there were immediate effects. 

 In the case of the St, Valory ai)j)le, which he thought authentic. 



