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of it. The color is not as bright as some, but it is worth more. It 

 was shipped to Boston and brought seventy-five cents a quart, and 

 there was room for more. So far as we get reports from the West 

 it is well spoken of. It is moderately firm. It is as hardy as any. 

 I know of none perfectly hardy. In black raspberries the Gregg 

 has superseded all other late varieties. It is too late for best prices. 

 The Souhegan and Tyler are valuable with us. We are growing 

 Hopkins to some extent. One objection to the Cuthbert is, it is a 

 little late. The Reliance is good except in color. Lost Rubies is 

 a good family berry. It must be grown by other varieties. 



M?\ Pierce, of Minnesota — I have heard more scolding about 

 Ben Davis than any other apple which comes to Minneapolis mar- 

 ket. They say they can't bake them without sweetening them. 

 The Janet is the best you send to our market. Your raspberry is 

 one we do not like. Some grow the Philadelphia just because the 

 market is not supplied with better. It will not be there long. The 

 Turner is an excellent berry. The Cuthbert is a good berry for 

 shipping and in quality. 



Gov. Colman — If you set out Ben Davis you are sure of getting 

 two dollars a barrel for all your apples. If you plant Janet you 

 will get one dollar a barrel, and have them bear every other year. 



Mr. Pearce, of Ohio — It seems to me the world is laboring under 

 a mistake, if those speaking against Ben Davis are right. People 

 would not buy it if it was not a good thing. Those other varieties 

 are not reliable; we can not depend on them. 



The Secretary — In the early days of the Ben Davis^ Dr. Warder 

 recommended it but acknowledged its rather poor quality. Some 

 one asked, "Why do you raise it, then?'' Answer, ''To sell." 

 It was asked, " To whom?" Answer, " To fools." To which a 

 wag remarked, "Yes; and, Doctor, we are raising fools much 

 faster than Ben Davis apples." 



Prof. Burr ill, of Illinois — Once there was a company together 

 who knew what they were about. They had fair taste, but were not 

 horticulturists. Certain varieties were passed around, and they 

 were to give an opinion on them. They were the Ben Davis, Janet, 

 Winesap, Jonathan, White Pippin, and perhaps one or two others. 

 The Ben Davis stood first and the White Pippin next. 



