52 TRANSACTIONS OF THE ILLINOIS 



All of Rogers' Hybrids I have tried have been a failure with me, 

 well as Lady, Lady Washington, Missouri Riesling, Vergennes, El 

 Dorado, Clevenor, Black Pearl, Empire State, Bacchus, Peter Wylie, 

 Oriental, Waverly and Jefferson. I have one Worden planted in the 

 old Concord vineyard that rotted as badly as the Concords, while one 

 in my experimental vineyard — probably twenty rods away from the 

 Concords — had perfect fruit; the former was seven years old, the 

 latter three years. 



I have tried baggiug on a small scale, and it is a success if done 

 early enough, but it must be done as soon after blossoming as possi- 

 ble, and even then you will sometimes find a bunch entirely rotted. 



The objection to bagging is the expense, and it retards ripening 

 a week or ten days and the skins are so thin 1 do not think they 

 could be shipped. There is no profit in shipping except for the 

 earliest market and we are almost too far north to get much from 

 that source. The prices in the city markets at the present time for 

 native grapes are from two to three cents per pound. 



Since the railroads have made such cheap rates on California 

 wines it has nearly ruined our home market. I don't think there 

 are more than two-thirds as many vines in our county as there were 

 fifteen years ago, and there are being but few planted. 



H. G. McPike — Is there any substitute for the Concord grape, 

 for money value, or dessert use ? Can it be excelled ? No ! I have 

 tried Worden, Delaware, Virginia Seedling, Cunningham, Niagara, 

 Pocklington, Lady Washington, and a score of others for a quarter 

 of a century. I do not want to disparage anybody, or anybody's 

 grape, and would like to beat the Concord, but while I have thought 

 it possible, I have never as yet, been able to do so. In size, color, 

 productiveness and quality, it is nearer right than any one grape I 

 know of. 



Mr. Mann — I move that a committee of three, from each hor- 

 ticultural district, be appointed to recommend lists of apples suitable 

 for planting in their respective districts. 



Motion adopted, and the following committees appointed: 



Northern Illinois — S. G. Minkler, H. Mortimer, L. R. Bryant. 

 Central Illinois — C. N. Dennis, Frank Cad well, C. B. Rockwell, 

 Southern Illinois — W. R. Crain, J. Webster, Jacob Auer. 



Adjourned. 



