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Turner Centre system by $53.00. Ihen, too, so far as we can 

 enter into conference with the contractors — hke Brother Brad- 

 ford and others — we will do so, to see if mutual arrangements 

 to mutual advantage cannot be worked out. These are the plans 

 we have in mind. 1 am sure there is a feeling on the part of the 

 dealers — I think Mr. Bradford will back me up in it — that they 

 are willing to work out with the farmers a better system of 

 handling milk. I doubt if the Grange could adapt itself just 

 now as effectively as a separate organization. 



Mr. Cummings: What reason have you, Mr. Pattee, for 

 thinking the Grange cannot take up a matter of that kind? -I 

 know there is an element opposed to the Grange doing much 

 as a body, but the Grange, in order to maintain itself, must do 

 these various things. Why should the Grange not be the central 

 organization ? Now. would you have little organizations for 

 all these interests ? No organization can exist but a short time. 

 You let that organization of milk men start and at once there 

 is an influence started to get something into that organization 

 that is detrimental to the men for whom the organization was 

 made ; it is so in the Grange. This is my opinion on the subject. 



Mr. Pattee : I think Brother Cummings is entirely honest, 

 and I am sure I am, because nobody is under greater obligation 

 to the Grange than I am. It is because I think men with one 

 interest can work together in a separate organization ; there 

 is more cohesion; they will stick together better if their inter- 

 ests are identical. For this reason I do not favor introducing 

 the matter into a general organization like the Grange. 



Mr. Cummings: I mean, as a department of a general organ- 

 ization. 



Mr. Pattee: Lots of people drift in in order to get into the 

 milk interests with us ; the general public. I don't want to 

 say the Grange isn't ready to do these things, but I do think 

 for the immediate purpose, the better thing for us to do is to 

 have an organization of men who are selling milk — milk pro- 

 ducts — cow products, for a business organization ; then, if it 

 is workable, possibly we can include the horticultural people. 

 It may grow, but most things that amount to anything begin 

 small and grow, and possibly the Grange will adopt it and 

 give it its strength, but I feel we need an organization of men 

 interested in milk. The milk problem is a New England prob- 



