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product, and, not only a desirable, but a salable class of off- 

 spring. 



Prof. Shaw. Mr. Chairman, I am exceedingly thankful 

 for the side-lights that have been let in on this question by the 

 last two speakers. I would like to say in this connection that 

 I do not want to discourage the breeding or sale of pure bred 

 females. I would rather that all animals in America were pure 

 bred or registered stock than to have them as they are, but what 

 I wanted particularly to represent to this meeting was this : 

 That while perhaps nineteen farmers out of twenty have not the 

 money to buy pure bred females, they do have the money, as 

 a rule, to buy one male, and that if a farmer has a large herd, 

 he can effect a tremendous improvement in that herd in that 

 way. Now the suggestion made is perfectly correct, but I say 

 let him introduce the pure bred blood as he can. If he cannot 

 do any better than that, then introduce it as he can by intro- 

 ducing pure bred females. I would recommend that, however, 

 only under this condition, that if he finds he has made a suc- 

 cess of his graded stock. If he has not made a success of his 

 grading he has no business to touch the thoroughbred stock, 

 for he will make less of a success with the pure bred if he has 

 has not been making a success with the graded cattle. 



A Member. I would not object to it, provided the females 

 had good strong stamina. I am a great stickler for stamina. 

 I believe, gentlemen, that the difficulty with many of the pure 

 bred sir^s today, is that we do not get stamina. If our animals 

 are possessed of strong stamina of the right kind, we can 

 use them to breed from. 



Mr. Phelps. Do you object to vicious sires, provided they 

 are properly handled, for use in breeding stock ? 



Prof. Shaw. Well, I would like to know what causes the 

 viciousness. There is a viciousness that is inherited. I do not 

 like that. There is also a viciousness that is caused by a man 

 who does not know how to handle that animal. If it arises 

 from any such source as that, I would not object to breeding 

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