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not having the bundles so tight but that some air could get through 

 between the bundles. Our cellars are all damp, and in a damp cellar this 

 is the best way to keep them, much better than to keep them close. I find 

 it is injurious to use packing material between each layer, or anything, 

 even moss or sand; it is better not to use anything except to put a little 

 covering at the top; moss is the most jjracticable thing to use at the top. 



Mr. GPiEEN: How large do you make your bundles of grape vines'? 



Mr. Hubbard: We have bundles jjerhaps eight to ten inches in diame- 

 ter, tied with willows. In a cellar where the temperature is dry you would 

 have to cover them more thoroughly. 



A Member : Do you ever allow your cellars to get to the freezing point ? 



Mr. Hubbard: No, sir, we would not dare to let it get so cold. 



A Member: Does not mildew appear at the top? 



Mr. Hubbard : Nothing to speak of, if you have them properly ventil- 

 ated. If there is a little mildew on the tops or on the stems it does not do 

 any harm whatever, only it looks bad — no harm to the growth or the vine 

 except for the looks. 



Mr. Green: How would it do to have a stove put in, if there was danger 

 of frost? 



Mr. Hubbard : We have natural gas where we are, and we have a gas 

 jet in the cellar, and if we want to raise the temperature we light that and 

 we can raise it five degrees in a short time. One oil stove could be placed 

 in the cellar and would raise the temperature very quickly. 



A Member: Does not mildew or mould form on a root that is injured? 



Mr. Hubbard: If the root is dried, there will be a little mould on the 

 spot that is bruised, but a root that is healthy, that has not been dried or 

 frozen, will not mildew. 



Mr. Chase: Do you pack currants in the same manner? 



Mr Hubbard: Currants are more difficult to keep with us; we pack them 

 in the same way. They are cpiite difficult to keep, unless you keep the 

 temperature very low. 



Mr. Chase : Would they be likely to start ? 



Mr. Hubbard: They would if you packed them in sand or in moss. 



Mr. Chase: We have a packer ttat packs them in damp sand — grape 

 vines, currants, gooseberries, everything of the kind, and we never had any 

 difiiculty in carrying them through. 



Mr. Hubbard: How low do you keep the temperature? 



Mr. Chase: As low as 32. 



Mr. Hubbard: I mean how high? 



Mr. Chase: That depends on the weather; of course it gets up as high as 

 50 or 60 sometimes. 



Mr. Hubbard : There is another point with grape vines. It would not 

 make so much difference with currants, but you who have had experience in 

 handling them in the cellar and tried to keep them in sand, know that in 

 taking them out you will have to handle the tops, and you are likely to rub 

 off the buds badly in pulling them out. The way we pack them we do not 

 injure the buds at all, taking them out, because they are easily handled. 

 We know that our stock keeps well, and the stock we set out grows 

 perfectly well and it is an easy way to keep them. Grape vines can also be 

 kept in boxes as they are packed and shipped, being in quantities not too 

 large, but in boxes three feet square, and they can be kept if packed in 

 moss without injury iTuless it is very warm. There is enough moisture in 



