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vereity. Mr. Rust, a member of the Legislature, eaid : " That is just 

 what we want — the funds of the Agricultural college to support the 

 University." I am a friend of education, and a friend of the University, 

 and shall do all in my power to support these institutions at the next 

 meeting of the State Legislature, of which I am a member, I believe 

 that the members of this and of every local society in the State have 

 the same feeling. 1 do not wish to injure the University, but I am 

 looking at the needs of our great State. I think there is sufficient 

 reason for the separation of the Agricultural college and the Experi- 

 ment station from the University. 



Mr. Blanchard — If the University is allowed to use the $50,000 

 belonging to the Agricultural college and the Experiment station with- 

 out law, I am in favor of a change, even if it be necessary to wipe the 

 Board of Curators out of existence. I am ashamed of having a col- 

 lege that gives no results. 



Mr. Chubbuck — Those who know me know I have taken a good 

 deal of interest in this Agricultural College question. By virtue of 

 my interest in the College and being a graduate of it, I know that col- 

 lege is not meeting its purposes. That $50,000 comes from the United 

 States treasury. It is not giving value received for the money. It is 

 not altogether due to the mismanagement of the college: it is partly 

 due to the fact that the farmers themselves have not asserted them- 

 selves as they should. Students can go there and get the information 

 they desire, though under difficulties. It is possible for that reason 

 that they ought to be separated. In making this statement it must be 

 admitted that we as farmers are not standing for ourselves seeking for 

 our rights. It may be that in asking for this separation we are con- 

 fessing weakness. I do not like to make a confession of weakness, 

 but I am coming to the conclusion that it is not best to keep them 

 together. If the farmers of the State desire and will express that de- 

 sire in an adequate manner, they can have the separation by saying so. 

 This matter must be canvassed very carefully before it can be accom- 

 plished. 



J. C. Evans — Mr. Chubbuck says it is possible for students to get 

 an agricultural education at Columbia. Suppose we admit it: is it 

 right to ask the general government to appropriate $50,000 a year to 

 graduate one and a half students "? This is the average number for ten 

 years. 



