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Mr. Case: I wish I had brought the figures that it has cost each year 

 to do the thinning. I^ist year — 1912 — think it cost nie the most; I 

 think possibly |370, but we had the pink aphis very bad. 



A Member: Did you have them the second year? 



Mr. Case: A few. I started out the second year fully confident that 

 I could handle the pink aphis. 



Mr. Wilken : We had them in 1912. 



Mr. Case: My idea was that we would not spray. They come under 

 the lower limbs first and I would not spray the tops of the trees, but 

 we put a man ahead to locate the lice and he told themi where to spray. 

 You understand that under normal conditions the lady bug and lai'va 

 are there and that they are feeding on the aphis, and that anything 

 that will kill the aphis will kill them a good deal quicker, as the lady 

 bug and larva are right in the open. Teets Bros, of East Williamston 

 had one orchard sprayed nine times with everything you can think of, 

 and if you ever saw a poor crop of apples they had it. The more they 

 sprayed the worse the apple crop. 



A Member: When did they spray? 



Mr. Case: Soon after the bloom crop. 



A Member: If you spray at that time can you control it? 



Mr. Case: We tried it. Of course the green aphis we don't care much 

 about. It is the pink aphis we care about. The most feasible thing I've 

 struck yet in regard to taking care of Rosy aphis was done at Homer 

 L's who has a farm on the lake shore. He has been very successful 

 there growing fruit. Last year in that part there was quite a bit of 

 pink aphis, and when he found them on the trees he immediately tele- 

 phoned to Ithaca — to Cornell — for the entomologist to come right there. 

 He showed it to him and he said to use kerosene emulsion or whale oil 

 soap, "Well" he says, "Case last year sprayed and sprayed with that 

 stuff and so did the Teets boys, and we have no one in the country who 

 does more thorough work than they do, and I haven't a bit of faith in 

 it. Now tell me one thing, how long before these lice that are on these 

 lower limbs will have wings and fly to other trees and have eggs?" He 

 gives him ten days. He calls a couple of men in and they get a pair of 

 shears and a grain bag. They got underneath and got these leaves off 

 and put them in a bag, and he says two men covered this orchard in 

 a short time and then went over it again. He burned these up and that 

 was the end of it. I don't believe there is anything else. 



Mr. Rogers: You have no trouble with the leaf hopper? 



Mr. Case: On the apples, no. 



Mr. Sherwood : I would like to ask, Mr. Case, if it was economical to 

 set your orchard as your father set it with peach trees? 



Mr. Case: Now we will suppose that orchard was set two rods x 3 

 rods. You have them a long ways apart and you are going to try and 

 do something with that land. Now will you please tell me at the price 

 of labor today what you can put between these trees to get a paying 

 crop. Tell me what it is besides berries. You may take potatoes or 

 beans or com or any of these things. 



Mr. Sherwood: How about peaches? 



Mr. Case: I don't like 'peaches in an orchard. There are several objec- 

 tions. One is, their cultivation is not the same; it is very different than 

 on an apple orchard. Another thing, the spray is different and it is 



