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would do much good for the bitter rot, but he used it there on the 

 grape. So I bought four hundred pounds of each of those, and I 

 put two pounds of each of those (The Hammond's slug shot and two 

 pounds of his grape dust) with ten pounds of lime, but as to the 

 result I cannot say, because some other orchards close by have had 

 pretty fine crops, but I do say that the orchards we have dusted have 

 given better results and more perfect fruit than the part of the orchard 

 that I did not spray. I fell it is a step in the right direction. Just 

 how much it is worth and just how much it will be worth yet, we 

 don't know ; we don't know all about spraying anyway and I am sure 

 that spraying has come to stay, and the only thing is to know when 

 to do it and how to do it and what kind of mixture to use and just 

 when to put it on. The experiments, that I am carrying on in our 

 orchard, are in a large way and I feel satisfied to continue them for 

 years to come. If I can keep these insects and these fungus diseases 

 out of the orchard, I am going to keep dusting continually every 

 year. 



George Murray. — I want to marke one suggestion. I would sug- 

 gest if you contemplate trying Mr. Riser's formula that the first thing 

 to do would be to take out a good heavy life insurance policy, because 

 that formula, if it is of good pure chemicals, and if you get enough of 

 it into the air to kill the insects, you will kill yourself. At least if 

 it don't kill you, you are liable to be laid up for a long time. This 

 may sound like a joke but it is a fact. I have heard of parties inhaling 

 enough of this dust poison to make them sick. I have not had any 

 such experience. I have had more experience with the liquid spray, 

 but I want to say that in my opinion it is only experimental work, and 

 both Mr. Goodman and Mr. Speakman have admitted as much. Now 

 I want to make this suggestion. I know that we hear a great deal on 

 this subject, but we hear only from one side. I believe in spraying. 

 I don't want to be understood as condemning spraying, but I do want 

 to hear both sides. * * * * i know it is a little embarassing for 

 any man who has failed, to get up in a meeting like this of progressive 

 fruit growers and make that admission, and that is one reason that 

 we hear so little. Another reason I believe is that some parties who 

 are interested in the cause of spraying from a pecuniary standpoint 

 keep this subject before us. They push it and keep it right to the 

 front and we hear only one side. 



Now in regard to the dust spray, I know nothing about it. It 

 may be alright, but 20 years ago Ave thought the liquid spray was 

 alright. We thought that was just the thing, and today many of us are 

 considerably skeptical whether after all it is doing us very much good. 



