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crops ; I have also Philadelphia, Clark, Ellisdale, and last, but not least, 

 the Turner, which I procured five years since from Prof. Turner, and 

 value very highly. The plant is hardy and productive, and the fruit 

 bears transportation well. The Ellisdale is a cap-berry, like the black- 

 caps, except in color; but I can't recommend it, as it don't hold on 

 well and is uneven in size. The McCormick is larger than Doolittle, 

 but hardly equal to it in flavor. Davison's Thornless has suffered more 

 from drought than other varieties. My soil is rich prairie, with light- 

 colored, rather porous subsoil. 



Mr. Nelson thinks the McCormick and small "Miami" are not 

 identical, though claimed by many to be so ; McCormick is larger, and 

 has a bloom upon it, while the Miami is quite black. He has had Turner 

 several years, but is not as well pleased with it as formerly. His soil is a 

 clayey prairie soil. He has seen a heavy crop of Turner berries at Odell. 

 The owner treated the plants in this way : He cultivates well, keeping 

 down the suckers, leaving four or five canes in a hill ; in the spring he 

 ties these canes together with a strong cord, about three and a half or 

 four feet from the ground, and cuts them off" just above the band. He 

 never saw so fine a sight in fruit as they presented, or a more beautiful 

 berry, and never tasted any one of as fine quality. 



Mr. Galusha gave his experience with varieties in Grundy county, 

 saying that he could make more money from Philadelphia than any one 

 he had tried. 



Mr. Slade (of Elgin) — My raspberries are on "timber land," with 

 a clay-loam soil and a clay subsoil. I am confident that soil has no more 

 to do with success or failure, with any particular varieties, than any thing 

 else. I began with Doolittle, but have abandoned it ; and I am glad that 

 I did not invest largely in Turner, as it don't give crops; Philadelphia 

 produces good crops, and also Davison's Thornless, which is worth more 

 on my grounds than any other sort. 



L. K. ScoFiELD (of Fr'eeport') — Davison's Thornless is a failure on 

 my ground, which is hazel-barrens. Doolittle is best of all black-caps 

 with me. The Franconia is hardy, but suckers badly ; the fruit is fine- 

 in quality. 



Dr. Williams said the Franconia killed on his oak-barrens every- 

 where, even on the north side of fences. 



President Ellsworth — A berry cultivated in Naperville as Fran- 

 conia, and which I suppose is genuine, is the best variety there. 



