ILLINOIS nORTlCULTUEAL SOCIETY. 335 



DISCUSSION OF SMALL FRUITS— GRAPES. 



Clinton. — McLain — Many advocate it for IVuitfuluess, but can't recommend it; 

 never yet able to get it entirely ripe . 



Secretary — Rotted bad, 



J. Davis — Not a first class grape; wait till frost touches it a little; did not rot at 

 Decatur; it is good enough to keep up a variety. 



Plutt — What will you do with it — send it to market? Must be sent to market while 

 it shines; if market quality determines its value,, should say it is a failure. 



Davis — Keeps well. 



McLain — Birds won't eat it. 



Dunlap — Once thought highly of it; beheves in substituting better for poor at any 

 time. 



Periam— Thinks will do lor family use; is a very good grape; there are several kinds 

 called Clinton. 



Parks — A good poor man's grape, and is good if you can't get any other. 



Dunlap— Thinks it a poor grape for a poor man . 



Daggy — Thinks well of it. 



Curtis — Hardy, and does well in Edgar county. After we try the Ives as long as 

 the Clinton it may also fail. 



Concord— No remarks. 



Delaware — Dunlap — It has done well. Thinks insects may render it unprofitable. 

 Bore well, but dropped its leaves. 



McLain— Is one of my pets. The most delicious we have. Bore well until this 

 season; in June the leaves became diseased and dropped ofi"— consequence, crop a 

 failure . A few on a western exjiosure ripened well. Don't like to give it up. 



Hartford Prolific— McLain— Hardy and profitable. Bears well; rotted some 

 in July. Fruit in market brings a good price. 



Ives— McLain — Hardy, and much like Hartford Prolific. Fruit not quite as large. 

 No sign of disease in vine or fruit. Not so good as Hartford Prolific. 



John Davis — Only a wine grape, said to be very rich in must. 



McLain — Thinks it not so good for wine as has been recommended. Don't think 

 the wine equals the Concord. 



J. Davis— The taste of a grape is no evidence of its value for wine. 



Dunlap— We must bear in mind that the statements of men who put these new 

 varieties on the market must be taken with allowance. It will rot like the Concord. 

 We need not expect it to escape from disease. The berries hold on well. Pure Ives 

 wine is not a good wine, but mixed with Concord is much improved. We want 

 grapes more for table than for wine. 



Martha— No remarks. 



raspberries. 



Kirtland's Seedling— Montgomery asked for information. 



H. J. Dualap — Said that Mr. E. H. Skinner, of Marengo, regarded it of httle value. 



