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went down, I let them go, intending, as I said, to cut them down. I am 

 convinced that all we need is to keep out the weeds, and 1 have found 

 a better quality where there has been not one bit of cultivation. 



Thk President — I would like to ask Mr. Miller if these grapes of 

 which he speaks, have been put to the test of the must scale .'' 



Mr. Miller — I did not test them. 



Mr. Hilli.\rd — I have my opinion about this rough culture, or "no 

 culture." I do not think " it will do to tie to." The vines may endure 

 for one or two seasons, but they will be sure to go back on you. 



The President — As I am more interested in the grape than any 

 individual present — having more invested in the vine — it may be proper 

 for me to say — I can't approve of this rough treatment of the vine — the 

 better the preparation the better the result. My practice is close prun- 

 ing — and good cultivation. 



The fact that grapes are grown without cultivation, seems to show 

 the good-nature of the vine even under severe and harsh treatment. I 

 would not attempt to grow grapes in this neglected manner — and what 

 is more, if I lived in the North, I would not attempt to grow grapes at 

 all for market. 1 would plant, and cover and care for enough for family 

 use, but no more — and you who live u]) there would do better if you 

 would leave this business to those who live in latitudes where they can 

 grow grapes — and turn your attention to that which is suited to your 

 climate. I say what I believe ; you will do better not to attempt to grow 

 grapes iox profit — and this is what you say — "there is no money in 

 grapes for me " — and that must be so. We can grow ten pounds where 

 you can grow five. 



Mr. Scofield — That we cannot raise grapes in the North, 1 think 

 is a mistake. We have raised as bountiful crops of grapes there as grow 

 anywhere — and among them the Concord, Perkins, and others. 



Voice — Can you do it every year, and all the time .' 



Mr. Daggv — I ha\e had vines that I have tenderly cared for, and 

 put upon trellis and 1 have had them in a neglected condition — and no 

 grapes. I do not think that any kind of treatment — either care or neg- 

 lect, will invariably produce a good crop of fruit. 



Mk. Wier — I have been tinkering at grape vines, for many years ; 

 every promising variety I would get and plant it, and cultivate it for two 

 or three years, tie up carefully to stakes and only be disappointed. As 



