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to be pretty lively about it, too. It struck me I would rather 

 get my water from the clouds. 



Mr. Fisher — It struck me that the gentleman left out the 

 greatest curse of California is that the land is owned by too 

 few parties. It does not pay parties in the state to put any 

 improvements on the land. This is in my oppinion the 

 greatest curse of California. They are using up the wood 

 land in this way. They have to let the land lie idle one 

 year in order to get a crop next year. Soon they will have 

 to let it lie over two years. If we could find people on their 

 own land it would go ahead of Wisconsin. 



Mr. Kellogg — I think Mr. Fisher is right. When I was 

 there the land back from the rivers was not worth a cent 

 until you got back into the gold regions. Now they have 

 made something of it by irrigating. It is wonderful what 

 they have made of it. 



Mr. Anderson — I was going to say there are two sides to 

 all these questions. I have a brother-in-law living there 

 but only has a small farm, only 140 acres, and he told me he 

 had cleared much money every year. He had lived in sev- 

 eral different states and he says he prefers to live in Califor- 

 nia. I asked him to tell me what kind of fruit he would 

 recommend for profit. He said alfalfa. The land will pro- 

 duce big crops. Mr. Stickney was close to my brother-in- 

 law's when he was at the ostrich farms, that he omitted to 

 tell you about. Mr. Stickney must have seen some of the 

 best land. But he only got into one little winery. I got 

 into one that cost $700,000. There are some advantages 

 and some disadvantages in living in California. I don't 

 know but I would want water where I can get it when I 

 want it. It doesn't cost them as much for irrigation as it 

 does me to get my manure out. They can do their work in 

 the fall. They can begin in December. Here we have to 

 do everything in the spring and frequently have to work 

 the land when it is not fit to work. I for one feel satisfied 

 that I could make money in California perhaps as well as 

 here, but I do say that I didn't see a farm in Los .Angelos 

 county that I would trade mine for. They haven't the 

 facilities that we have here. But take it all in all a man of 



