Discussion. 157 



Take Prof. Henry's work at Madison; he goes out of the 

 line of trial work simply to make experiments. The terms 

 may be somewhat synonymous, but I think when we have 

 experimental stations we want a place where experiments 

 are made, and where we shall get some scientific knowledge 

 that will tell us just what to do. A man says I will use 

 ashes as a fertilizer. Now ashes are good as a fertilizer 

 just as far as they furnisb food for the plant, but there is 

 another effect in which they are in no sense fertilizers. We 

 want to go at this question of experimental stations in earn- 

 est; but for the mere trial work I agree with Mr. Tuttle, and 

 we should all work in harmony. In regard to the Russian 

 apples, perhaps they call you a crank just the same as they 

 did a few years ago, when you thought you had hit upon 

 the Red Queen, and you know in that you were disap- 

 pointed, and I believe the Sour Turnip the same way. 



A. G. Tuttle — The Red Queen, so far as I know, is not a 

 failure. It is au apple that will keep through the winter, 

 and I believe it is as good as the Duchess. The Sour Tur- 

 nip is a good eating apple. 



H. C. Adams — The point I want to bring out is that Mr. 

 Tuttle does not appear to appreciate the value of work that 

 can be done at one point. He says that Mr. A., at a certain 

 point and under certain conditions reaches a conclusion, but 

 the conditions may be different at other places and there- 

 fore we will have a number of observers at different points. 

 Now if the experience of one is not worth anything the ex- 

 perience of a number of men is not worth anything. 



A. G. Tuttle — You have a station at Madison, but what is 

 that worth for St. Croix county? 



H. C. Adams — There are certain things that we can ex- 

 periment upon. We do not expect to prove everything. We 

 can find out something about fertilizers and about soil if we 

 cannot about hardiness. 



A. G. Tuttle — That is the main thing. If you have not 

 got that you have not got anything in this state. 



H. C. Adams — You may have hardiness, but if you do 

 not have culture you can not do much. We want to have a 



